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LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes 01-08-2009, 10:24 AM   #1 (permalink) sonlarson World Silver Collector     Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 157 Learning to grade, still need help 2009 is my year to work on a U.S type set. I have always wanted a Flying Eagle Cent and bought one yesterday. The dealer had graded as VF and I have no problems with that since I paid based on that grading. Using my copy of Photograde(TM) I think it might be somewhere between VF and XF. What are your opinions? Ignore the specks of dust. I didn't brush off until after photo. Attached Thumbnails     Last edited by sonlarson; 01-08-2009 at 10:26 AM.   01-08-2009, 10:29 AM   #2 (permalink) jazzcoins Coin Collector   Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: upstate Ny or my home planet ZECTAS Posts: 1,510 My Mood: I would say that's a AU 50 to about a 55 looks like you still have mint luster nice coin Jazz Last edited by jazzcoins; 01-08-2009 at 10:53 AM.   01-08-2009, 10:36 AM   #3 (permalink) coinblogger Senior Member     Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 230 Hey jazzcoins, How can you tell that there is still mint luster? And, that is a nice coin!! __________________ Check out my coin collecting blog, Coinblogger.com Interesting Articles: - Coin Collecting Guide - Interview With Owner of MesaCoin.com   01-08-2009, 11:19 AM   #4 (permalink) jazzcoins Coin Collector   Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: upstate Ny or my home planet ZECTAS Posts: 1,510 My Mood: Quote: Originally Posted by coinblogger Hey jazzcoins, How can you tell that there is still mint luster? And, that is a nice coin!! Well you still have some nice detail in the wing area but the breast area is kind of worn. The reverse shows some mint luster left from your pics that's how i;m judging it by ,there still is some copper present it's not a dark colour on the fields of the coin, now remember this is by your pics.I did look your coin over better. I think it's more in the EF 45 to AU 50 range now that im have really looked closer to it Jazz Last edited by jazzcoins; 01-08-2009 at 11:26 AM.   01-08-2009, 01:21 PM   #5 (permalink) borgovan Supporter**   Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,343 It's a solid VF. The only thing that concerns me is what looks like might be some damage either to the rim, or the surface close to the rim. I'm looking on the obverse just below and to the left of the date. If it's just a speck of dust, then I think you're good to go!   01-08-2009, 02:04 PM   #6 (permalink) GDJMSP Numismatist     Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: PA Posts: 23,391 I don't think that coin has any luster whatsoever. It appears as if it has been dipped to death. Yes, the details would seem to indicate that it shoud grade higher, but because it has been over-dipped the grade would drop. I would say that the dealer net graded it correctly. __________________ knowledge ..... share it   01-08-2009, 06:40 PM   #7 (permalink) mrbrklyn CEO of Brooklyn     Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 10,092 My Mood: Blog Entries: 3 I think that coin was cleaned but I would definetely collect. I have different standards for these coins becuase of the age an uniqueness of these in coin collecting history. Ruben __________________ "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own society." Coin Talk Museum Exhibits http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins.html   01-09-2009, 07:38 AM   #8 (permalink) coinblogger Senior Member     Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 230 Can you guys describe mint luster? What exactly does it look like? __________________ Check out my coin collecting blog, Coinblogger.com Interesting Articles: - Coin Collecting Guide - Interview With Owner of MesaCoin.com   01-09-2009, 10:22 AM   #9 (permalink) jazzcoins Coin Collector   Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: upstate Ny or my home planet ZECTAS Posts: 1,510 My Mood: Quote: Originally Posted by coinblogger Can you guys describe mint luster? What exactly does it look like? Mint luster Is the glossy sheen reflected from the sufrace of a coin resulting from the flow of metal caused by the striking dies. At the time of minting,the luster is at it's strongest,but may fade over time,become discolored,or spotted.Also known simply as luster ,which your coin has. Jazzcoins Joe   01-09-2009, 10:52 AM   #10 (permalink) sonlarson World Silver Collector     Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 157 Bingo. I knew it had a spot, which I assumed was just dirt or a carbon spot. I wansn't concerned since this was for my type collection and I got it at a fair price. I took another photo under magnification to show what appears to be either mint damage or post mint damage, Still happy with the coin. I would not be at all suprised if it had been cleaned some time in it's past. 151 years is a long time. Thanks for all your resonses. Leson learned is to look more closley before buying and don't let emotions carry you away. Attached Thumbnails     Bookmarks Digg del.icio.us StumbleUpon Google Would you like to support CoinTalk? Coin Talk Code of Honor 1. Post unto others as you would have them post unto you. 2. Keep it clean, like a 1950s family television show. 3. 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