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Page 1 of 2 1 2 >   LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes 01-07-2009, 12:06 PM   #1 (permalink) randall flagg Junior Member   Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5 inherited coins, please help identifying Greetings My family has got a coin collection which goes back a few generations now. There are a couple of 100 coins there some of them looks really old. I was wondering if any of you guys could help me identify them. This is what I know about them. Nr 1. I think it is sassanian ? Nr 2. Rumors in the family says this one is a gold coin and it's made when Genghis Kahn invaded persia. Supposedly It's mongolian on one side and arabic on the other. I can't read neither so I wouldn't know I'v got a few other coins also thx in advance Attached Thumbnails           01-07-2009, 12:39 PM   #2 (permalink) Drusus Pecunia non olet     Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 2,922 My Mood: I can ID these when I get home if someone doesnt before then...I can tell you the Sassanian coin top is the reverse and needs to be rotated 90 degrees counter clockwise and the second photo is the obverse and it is upside down. __________________ Pecunia in arbotis non crescit   01-07-2009, 04:50 PM   #3 (permalink) acanthite Akiba haiozi     Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Western hemisphere Posts: 1,822 My Mood: Your first coin is Sassanian, from the arrangement of symbols on the reverse and obverse crown style I think it is Peroz I, in either year 1 or 2 of his reign (about 459-460 AD). I cannot see a date on the reverse, and if it is indeed year 1 or 2 there will not be one. What is the diameter? The mint mark is Darabgird, which is just north of the Gulf of Hormuz. __________________ 'The vanquished always seek to imitate their conquerors in their dress, insignia, beliefs, and other customs and usages...' - Ibn Khaldun, c. 1380 Last edited by acanthite; 01-07-2009 at 04:58 PM. Reason: mintmark info   01-08-2009, 01:46 AM   #4 (permalink) randall flagg Junior Member   Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5 Unfortunately I don't have the diameter or weight on any of the coins. I only photographed them.   01-08-2009, 09:27 AM   #5 (permalink) Drusus Pecunia non olet     Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 2,922 My Mood: I agree with acathite on the first...I also think it is Peroz I but I could not nail down the year or find another exct example. As for the second one, I apologize but could not find much about it. I dont like to admit I cant ID a coin but you might find someone who can help you here: http://www.forumancientcoins.com go to the forum there and post asking for ID of the coin, there is a good chance someone might know. __________________ Pecunia in arbotis non crescit   01-08-2009, 10:57 AM   #6 (permalink) randall flagg Junior Member   Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5 I'll post he gold coin on that forum. Here are two more coins. nr.1 Arabic dirhem ? nr.2 Done some research on my own and I've concluded that it is an parthian coin. Looks like gotarez I, can't find exact matches but other coins of him looks like my coin. The coin is very small I'm new to this so I may be way off. Are these coins worth anything? Should I put them in a safe or are they safe (haha) in their box with the other coins? Attached Thumbnails           01-08-2009, 01:06 PM   #7 (permalink) acanthite Akiba haiozi     Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Western hemisphere Posts: 1,822 My Mood: Quote: Originally Posted by randall flagg Are these coins worth anything? Should I put them in a safe or are they safe (haha) in their box with the other coins? These coins are scarce and fairly valuable and well worth keeping safe, particularly from humidity, etc. By the way, both sides of the 'Abbasid dirham and gold coin are posted upside-down. __________________ 'The vanquished always seek to imitate their conquerors in their dress, insignia, beliefs, and other customs and usages...' - Ibn Khaldun, c. 1380   01-08-2009, 02:40 PM   #8 (permalink) randall flagg Junior Member   Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5 Thank you very much for the help both of you. I will invest in something to preserve the coins better and photograph the rest of the coins. This coin business has now caught my attention. Maybe I'll start collecting myself. I will post here if I find out anything more regarding the gold coin. If you're interested that is? Again thank you   01-08-2009, 02:47 PM   #9 (permalink) acanthite Akiba haiozi     Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Western hemisphere Posts: 1,822 My Mood: Quote: Originally Posted by randall flagg I will post here if I find out anything more regarding the gold coin. If you're interested that is? Again thank you I would certainly like to know what you find out about it. I did some looking for it but the writing is a bit beaten up. Good photos by the way, helps a lot with ID's. I'm guessing the person who owned this collection originally knew a fair bit about coins, you're fortunate to have such nice pieces. __________________ 'The vanquished always seek to imitate their conquerors in their dress, insignia, beliefs, and other customs and usages...' - Ibn Khaldun, c. 1380 Last edited by acanthite; 01-08-2009 at 02:49 PM.   01-08-2009, 12:22 PM   #10 (permalink) Drusus Pecunia non olet     Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 2,922 My Mood: You are correct on the Parthian coin, I believe it is Gotarzes I (ca. 95-90 BC) Drachm with the King facing left, wearing diademed tiara ornamented with flams, reverse is Archer enthroned. I am looking into the other...I CAN tell you that you have them pictured up side down. __________________ Pecunia in arbotis non crescit Last edited by Drusus; 01-08-2009 at 12:46 PM.   01-08-2009, 12:33 PM   #11 (permalink) acanthite Akiba haiozi     Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Western hemisphere Posts: 1,822 My Mood: The Arabic dirham is 'Abbasid, from the reign of Al-Ma'mun, minted in the city of Samarkand in AH 206 (about 821 AD). __________________ 'The vanquished always seek to imitate their conquerors in their dress, insignia, beliefs, and other customs and usages...' - Ibn Khaldun, c. 1380   01-08-2009, 12:50 PM   #12 (permalink) Drusus Pecunia non olet     Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 2,922 My Mood: The islamic one is tough but I think it might be Al-Ma'mun as Khalifat allah, similar to this: Its not an exact example though it is very similar. You might want to look furthe ron this site: here is the page: http://www.coinarchives.com/a/lotvie...ID=103&Lot=769 edit...It took me a while and it look like the answer was given before I could finish __________________ Pecunia in arbotis non crescit Last edited by Drusus; 01-08-2009 at 12:53 PM.   01-08-2009, 02:53 PM   #13 (permalink) Drusus Pecunia non olet     Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 2,922 My Mood: I am interested as well, these are great coins. __________________ Pecunia in arbotis non crescit   01-08-2009, 03:15 PM   #14 (permalink) acanthite Akiba haiozi     Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Western hemisphere Posts: 1,822 My Mood: If it may help you in researching the gold coin, my guess, without much real evidence, that it comes from the Great Seljuq Empire, from about the time of Barkiyaruq (1094-1105 AD). This would place it before the Mongol invasion of Persia. __________________ 'The vanquished always seek to imitate their conquerors in their dress, insignia, beliefs, and other customs and usages...' - Ibn Khaldun, c. 1380   01-08-2009, 05:10 PM   #15 (permalink) HandsomeToad Urinist     Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Arkansas Posts: 6,572 My Mood: Here's a similar one: http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotvie...D=157&Lot=1124 CoinArchives may have yours listed but I don't know what to use on the search string to find it. Ribbit   Page 1 of 2 1 2 > Bookmarks Digg del.icio.us StumbleUpon Google Would you like to support CoinTalk? Coin Talk Code of Honor 1. Post unto others as you would have them post unto you. 2. Keep it clean, like a 1950s family television show. 3. 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