rzage

Toad , don't know anything about these , hope it's legit , just glad to see you posting again .
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jazzcoins

I don't know to much about these coins so i will shut my mouth I just want to say glad your posting again toad[IMG]http://smileys.*************.com/cat/36/36_33_5.gif[/IMG]

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HandsomeToad

I'm going to run it by the local collectors at the next club meeting. I too feel funny about it and I don't know ancients but I also have a funny feeling about some of his other offerings. Usually a seller will have all authentic or all fakes, or mostly fakes, and some of the seller's coins bother me. I messaged the seller 2 days ago and not a peep back from him so that too has me on edge.

I may run it by the local coin shop dude and see what he says and if says fake, I'm sending it back and won't wait till the club meeting.

Thanks all!

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Vercingetorix

i think it's fake. the style is like no other owl i've ever seen, from any period.

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Ardatirion

Its copying the rare early tetradrachms of this style from Athens. But it differs in the brow of the helmet and in the eyes on the obverse. I illustrated some of the technical issues on the reverse. I'm going to have to say fake, sorry. Don't give up yet, Toad!

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rzage

HT did you use paypal ?
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randygeki

If you can, check on wildinds.com to look for that type.

editor_ens

Since no one has given a definitive answer I will bring the bad news.

I have see quite a few Athenian Tetradrachms.

Your Example is fake. The designs are not correct, and there are casting marks. A good way to tell an authentic coin is if it has a punch mark or wedge taken out of it. Nearly 95% of authentic examples do.

This is what an authentic version looks like.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Athens-Attica-AR...3%3A1|294%3A50

Ardatirion

While the designs may not be consistent with the bulk of Athenian coinage, they do resemble the earliest archaic tetradrachms, as I already mentioned. Here is the best example I could find on short notice:


The cuts you speak of are far from the best method of counterfeit detection, as these are themselves often counterfeited!

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fak...h&cat=0&pos=14

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HandsomeToad

If you look close on the obverse pic, you'll see the nose looks funny, sorta like it has a piece of armour covering it. I don't know what that kind of helmet is called but that is another problem I have with this piece, since other pieces don't seem to have that type of helmet on. Plus, the chin seems too pointy.

Ribbit

Hobo

ens,

What is the purpose of the test cut on a genuine coin? Is it to show the coin is not plated? And I'm sure the test cut was made in ancient times to ensure the coin was genuine when it was used in commerce.

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randygeki

from what i've read, yes. I've seen some with6-7 cuts