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12-02-2008, 04:08 PM
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My Mood: | Circulated 1985 Roosevelt Dime - Very Sharp AU 58 - Possible Double Die |
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12-02-2008, 04:12 PM
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Ruben,
What part do you see that's doubled?
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12-02-2008, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tcore Ruben,
What part do you see that's doubled? | Dates, Letters - its really everywhere. Look at the large photo's esp the reverse.
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12-02-2008, 04:21 PM
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I don't know... I'm not seeing it, but maybe I'm just not seeing it. |
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12-02-2008, 04:24 PM
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what do you see in the lower loup of the 8 of 1985?
Ruben
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12-02-2008, 04:41 PM
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To be honest with you, the image isn't sharp enough and the reflection is blocking me from seeing fine resolution detail (not that I could do any better on the image). I'm not saying the doubling isn't there. I just can't see it.
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12-02-2008, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tcore To be honest with you, the image isn't sharp enough and the reflection is blocking me from seeing fine resolution detail (not that I could do any better on the image). I'm not saying the doubling isn't there. I just can't see it. | I'll see if I can get a better pic. The tip off was that I took all those pictures together in about 30 minutes with the lighting and camera the same and that dime looked different than the others. Closer looking at the date made it clear to me, anyway, that the who dime had doubling. I don't know if it is mechanical or die, but it does seem to be doubling.
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12-02-2008, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tcore To be honest with you, the image isn't sharp enough and the reflection is blocking me from seeing fine resolution detail (not that I could do any better on the image). I'm not saying the doubling isn't there. I just can't see it. | How about the I in AMERICA?
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12-02-2008, 05:24 PM
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Just from the way the coin looks it almost looks like a worn die. I am not an expert at this, but that is what I think I see. It reminds me of that jefferson nickel I posted a while back.
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12-02-2008, 08:37 PM
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There is definite doubling on the coin, just can;t tell what kind based on the pics. Easiest place for me to see it is IN GOD WE TRUST.
But Ruben, that is no where near AU. It's another VF.
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12-02-2008, 10:17 PM
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Looks like strike doubling to me, but I'd love to see a really huge and tack-sharp version of the image to be more sure.
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12-02-2008, 10:17 PM
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p.s. an extreme closup of a few areas of doubling would be even better. |
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12-02-2008, 10:56 PM
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Next question: On this dime what made me think of worn dies were how fat the legends appeared to be, especially around the reverse. The way it looked reminded me of that nickel I posted some time back. Almost like the worn dies made things fatter and weaker in appearance. Is this possible?
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12-02-2008, 11:00 PM
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Of course it's possible. Die deterioration is a well known cause of what looks like doubling. Then there is mechanical doubling and of course a doubled die. Any of them are possible, but with these pics we can't see.
But if you look at the bottom left corner of the G in GOD, that looks pretty rounded to me.
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12-02-2008, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by GDJMSP Of course it's possible. Die deterioration is a well known cause of what looks like doubling. Then there is mechanical doubling and of course a doubled die. Any of them are possible, but with these pics we can't see.
But if you look at the bottom left corner of the G in GOD, that looks pretty rounded to me. | truthfully, when I was editing these images it occurred to me that this might be the first true double die I ever got because the doubling seems distinct in the lettering and the tail of the 9 seems very distinct. I'm going to have to pull this coin out of the stack of pulled circulated coins again and look at it closer.
I'm glad to see that my routine coins are being enjoyed and being used as learning tools. There is more to collecting than chasing riches and arguing about economics.
Ruben
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