HAGOP

Enough!

It's about Presidental $1 Coins.

The President Washington $1 Coin was first available to the public on February 15, 2007.
I can't believe how in our days 2007-2008 errors still happen.
Today's technology is Very different than 1950's & before.
I think the US Mint should mint 99.9% simillar coins.
I respect all the presidents on the Presidental $1 coins & US Mint.

My Question is: DO YOU CALL THESE ERRORS OR VARIETIES?

I THINK THESE WAS MADE TO SELL TO PEOPLE WITH HIGH VALUES,THEY ARE NOT WRONGLY ERRORS.

WEAK EDGE Lettering

2007-P & D Washington,How can weak edge happen? I have seen many swiss 5 Francs of 1970's 80's not any of them have a weak edge.

Missing Edge

Missing Edge? Is this possible in our era?


Do you think: ALL THESE MISSING EDGE COINS WAS MINTED WHEN :

EDGE ENGRAVING CLICK WAS SIMPLY OFF? TO HAVE SAME COINS WITHOUT EDGE LETTERING?

HOW CAN PEOPLE CALL THESE ERRORS?

Regards,Hagop (this post was posted in 1-12-2008)

andrew289

Try DeCafinated coffee.

HAGOP

You just posted an ERROR reply on my thread!

It's not DeCafinated

It's DeCaffeinated

I'm sure u ment that.

Replying to ur Off Topic:
But why coffee?
I had beer Then I had Zubrowka bison grass vodka with orange juice.
Maybe I'm drunk now!!!!

Clinker

Errors are made by every mint in the world. Making errors is a by-product of humanity....An error is just that (an error) created by an employee's carlessness in allowing errors to be struck, but, also, by a lazy employee whose job is to ferret out the mistakes before they are rolled, bagged or placed into special holders for shipping. The Mints, themselves, never benefit from producing an error coin. Errors are found or sought out by error collectors and/or coin dealers so they can benefit in their diligent quest, by increasing their collection OR from the resale of error coins to collectors

I don't collect errors, so could care less. but I don't blame the mint for them, just those "weakest link" employees...

Clinker

HAGOP

You're right, there's a ONE example here:
http://coins.shop.ebay.com/items/?_n...07&_osacat=543

The mint can keep some rolls of errors & by time sell to the dealers.
so the mint should change the employees or spend more money to not produce error type coins.

jello

Sad but true. they did a better job on the 1800's Bust half!

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ziggy9

Remember that in the 1800's the machines produced at a MUCH slower rate than modern machines. This allowed time for inspection of more coins. In the modern process the first sign that there is a problem is often a change in the sound of the machine operating. By the time it is noticed and the equipment shut down there may be hundreds, if not thousands of die cracks, misaligned dies, cuds, or whatever already in the hopper. The mint is not looking to make every coin perfect, just useable, so they don't bother to sort through the thousands of coins in the hopper to find the errors.

As far as the "godless dollars" are concerned, the process was flawed. They would stamp the edges first and then the coins would go into a hopper and be wheeled to the next machines. At least one hopper bypassed the first machine and were therefor not stamped on the edge. This has supposedly been fixed.

As for weak edges, this is a die pressure adjustment issue.

The thing we have to remember is the mint is making a product that is designed to do its job for a period of time and be scrapped. they are not trying to make every coin a collector's piece. (if they were the cost's would be rediculous). That's why one in MS-66 or above is so special, and true errors are reare enough that they do demand a premium..


Richard

jaceravone

Isn't this what this hobby is all about???? The excitement of finding an "error or variety" in a minted coin or series. If all I had to look forward to was 3 coins a year from each series/type minted, then that would be no fun. But the idea that you could find the first error minted or be the first to discover a new variety, then that is what makes this hobby so exciting.

When an error/variety occurred in the Morgan or Peace dollar series we happily call them VAMs, when an error/variety is found on IKEs, we happily call them DIVAs, when an error/variety is found on large cents we happily call them Sheridans (I don't know the actual term because I don't collect them - but I know there is one) but you get my point. Why should the presidential dollars be any different? You have just as much a chance to go around and document all the varieties and then maybe you could write a book about them. Then every time one is found we will call it a HAGOP! The possibility exists!

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Ardatirion

You seem to be basing your whole argument on the thought that the mint is doing this INTENTIONALLY. There is evidence that, in previous years, this has occurred. But you're going to need a lot more evidence before you convince me its happening now. Otherwise, I'll file this post in the same cabinet with Elvis sightings, bigfoot, et al.

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Isaiah

Was that meant as an insult? I believe that we have so much concrete evidence of the existence of Bigfoot that it is absurd NOT to believe.

green18

yes indeed, he truely does live....

http://www.messinwithsasquatch.com/

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And I've seen a UFO .
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Ardatirion

It was a bit harsh, my bad. But only if you're the kind of person to be insulted by someone not feeling your argument is supported by sufficient evidence.

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green18

Sufficient evidence? I've already posted sufficient evidence....

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bullionboy

I'd kill for the error in my avatar or the Sacky on quarter error.