jaceravone

Very SWEEEEEEET Lee! Welcome to CT!!!! That is very neat that we had your imput. Congrats on your find. Over the past year, I have been trying to put together a graded set of IKEs to complement the set that I put together in my album. This was much harder than expected. As you can gather, the thread started out talking about your coin and then started bouncing around a little. Over the past few weeks, I was able to identify two 71S DDO and two 72S DDO which has been pretty exciting. I have been trying to photograph the motto on the coins where the doubled die is most evident, but can't get a good detailed photo. Any imput and advice you can give would be great. Attached is a picture of a picture. That is the best I can do to demonstrate what I am looking at.

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mrbrklyn

That is pretty good! How are you putting that on the net? And where do you see the doubling?

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jaceravone

The camera I have is 8 mega pixels cannon SD870. This is has a 4x digital macro zoom. At the time that I purchased this, you couldn't really get much better than that. There was some higher mega pixel cameras, but they didn't have as good digital zoom.

The picture was taken of a picture found in the Cherrypickers guide vol2. Take a look at the T and R in trust. This is not a sterotypical doubled die like we have all become familiar with. The 72S also has doubling on the reverse. I found mine to have doubling in the stars on the reverse. Hope this helps.

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mrbrklyn

No that is great. Flip the pixels up to 8mbt and do it again. Don't reduce it at all, and then send it to me. I'll take the larger image and put it on my server, and I bet we can expose the details of the doubling.

Ruben

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jaceravone

Cool. PM me your email address. I am going to have to work on it tomorrow. I am way past my bed time. Plus I am angry.... I just saw my Giants get their butts whoooped. Talk to you later.

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19Lyds

For Jaceravone, I think this is what you are looking for:







This is a 1972-S Silver Proof FS-101 DDO shot through a 30X Stereo Microscope. The scope was a lot cheaper than a big focal length lens for a digital camera that I do not have. I use a Sony DSC-F717 5mp camera which meets all my needs.

jaceravone

Thank you so much!!! I couldn't have taken better pic myself! That is exactly what I am looking at.

Ruben, I know this was hard for me, but I always thought that doubled dies were very obvious. But that is only because we are so familiar with the big ones like the 55 or 72 Lincolns which were very obvious DDs. His pictures are perfect. I was thinking that the only way I would get the pics that I need was through a stereo microscope. Look at all the lettering..... everything is slightly doubled. Look at the base of the T and R, then look at the I and N and G. All have traces of doubling. Made me rethink on what to look for when I am looking for doubled dies. The reverse of my 72S had doubled stars as well. Thanks 19LDYS for the pics!

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mrbrklyn

Pushing up doubling again...

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mrbrklyn

how many megapixels is that camera?

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mrbrklyn

I don't need to PM it. Its public knowledge.

ruben@mrbrklyn.com

But DON'T EMAIL it too me.....god don't do that....it should be about 8 megs!

Email me. just text, and I'll show you how to upload it to the server directly

Ruben

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jaceravone

ok same place torrow night and I will be here. Peace out!

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mrbrklyn

I must be stupid because I don't see the doubling

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19Lyds

I wouldn't call you stupid as much as I'd say you do not know what to look for.





If you are looking for something like the 1955/55 Lincoln, I can tell you to stop your search right now because that extremely heavy spread is nearly non-existant with IKE dollars as that could be spotted immediately by the press operators. The spread on this coin is whats know as "medium spread" whereas "light spread" is more typical for the IKEs.

The arrows indicate the letter separation.

For the 1971-S FS-103, the spread is much more distinct!

19Lyds

Here's a 1971-S DDR that I picked out of a dealers "bargain box" for about $7.00!





I definitely need to get better pictures of this one.

mrbrklyn

Well then what about this one? This one seems to have even more pronounced doubling in the 6's 9, 7, E,R,and T . I'd just chalked this up to mechanical doubling which isn't that exciting.

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