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07-30-2008, 09:41 PM
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#1 (permalink)
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Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Illinois
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My Mood:  | I bought a 2 cent piece today
It was 20 bucks. My first one. Threw in the bid with a few hours to go. Mine was the only bid. It only received a total of 38 views. Am I missing something?
I know the one A looks beat up but otherwise, it was exactly what I was looking for. I just wanted a halfway decent 1864.
I think I paid about what it's worth.
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07-30-2008, 09:44 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Houston, Tx
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Anytime you can get a 2 center with WE still visable it's a good deal  | |
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07-30-2008, 10:02 PM
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| | A closed mind is no mind
Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Southern tip of that big pond known as Lake Michigan.
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Appears to have taken a light cleaning in the past but the detail is nice.
You did just fine for $20.
Congrats!
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07-30-2008, 10:11 PM
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Thanks a lot guys. Yeah, it may have been cleaned at one point. I couldn't really tell. Figured for 20 bucks, I'll take the gamble.
I like it. I was just surprised there weren't more people looking at it or anybody bidding. It did go during the middle of the day on a Wednesday though. Might have had something to do with it.
Intercept shield holders for it arrived today 'in case' I won it.
Well, just thought I'd share.  | |
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07-30-2008, 09:57 PM
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| | US Coin Collector
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Looks nice to me! I would grade it around VF to XF ++  Very nice!
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07-30-2008, 11:16 PM
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That is a nice coin with great detail. Please don't get angry, but I believe that coin has been recolored, and that's why it didn't get more interest. I hate to be the bearer of bad news.  ON the bright side, the price you paid wasn't bad....Mike
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07-30-2008, 11:41 PM
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| | ANA# R3152287
Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Illinois
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Originally Posted by Leadfoot  That is a nice coin with great detail. Please don't get angry, but I believe that coin has been recolored, and that's why it didn't get more interest. I hate to be the bearer of bad news. ON the bright side, the price you paid wasn't bad....Mike |
Hmm. Never considered that. It could be. Could you explain what makes you think it's been re-colored? I'm curious to learn. I'll take a couple pics once I get it and post them here. It does look bright for the wear. I'll have to see it in person.
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07-31-2008, 12:12 AM
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| | A closed mind is no mind
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Originally Posted by Vess1 Hmm. Never considered that. It could be. Could you explain what makes you think it's been re-colored? I'm curious to learn. I'll take a couple pics once I get it and post them here. It does look bright for the wear. I'll have to see it in person. | I'm not sure about re-colored but it has taken a cleaning. The "devices" as in nooks and crannies are too clean for starters. Color is too light. Should be a darker brown for the grade.
Basically not seeing "good original dirt".
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07-31-2008, 12:30 AM
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I agree. It should be darker for the grade. Despite whatever has happened to it, I'd buy it again. I just wanted one. I've looked at many and never could find one I liked. The WE is worn off most of them and that was part of my criteria. I at least wanted it distinguishable. Without having to pay several hundred dollars for it. Seems like every one I've seen is either all or nothing.
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07-31-2008, 09:50 AM
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All depends on your budget no doubt. That and these can become addictive believe me.
I figure that I have at least 60 of them now.
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08-01-2008, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Vess1 Hmm. Never considered that. It could be. Could you explain what makes you think it's been re-colored? I'm curious to learn. I'll take a couple pics once I get it and post them here. It does look bright for the wear. I'll have to see it in person. | So, you mean "it just looks recolored" isn't enough? 
Your coin has obvious high-point wear but its color is too even. Circulated copper should have more contrast between the worn parts and unworn (i.e more protected) areas. Like this:  
Always be wary when you see a circulated piece of old copper with an even coloration -- as it is generally a sign of recoloring....
Your coin also has the telltale hue of Dellers Darkener (an agent to add color back to cleaned copper) -- which is the other thing that tipped me off.
Again, sorry to be the bearer of bad news. For $20 you didn't do too bad, and in the end the only thing that matters is if YOU like the coin...Mike
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07-30-2008, 11:19 PM
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Sorry, but I agree with Leadfoot. It looks like it has been messed around with. But still has really nice details | |
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07-30-2008, 11:35 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Chicago
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Real nice 2 cent piece , been looking for one with the we showing .
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07-31-2008, 12:03 AM
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It looks like some one has cleaned it, and then try to hide it by re-coloring it. I do not know how to explain it, I have just know from experience. If you look at it in a way, it looks like there has been added an extra layer of color, and it is shiny/glossy looking. Do you see what I mean?
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08-01-2008, 06:18 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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I think you did just fine. You have a nice obsolete coin with lots of detail. Sure, it's been cleaned but it has plenty of detail for you to study and learn from. Down the road you can buy a better one and sell this one to someone looking for a cheap Two Center. I don't think you will lose much, if any, money on the deal.
Enjoy your new coin.
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