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07-08-2008, 10:51 PM
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| Ebay 1864-S Seated Dollar Counterfeit, bid up to $50 http://cgi.ebay.com/1864-S-SEATED-LI...QQcmdZViewItem
Auction is for an 1864-S Seated Dollar, which does not even exist. Yet numerous people have made bids, and I bet this ends up at $100-$200 at least.
If not for the S mintmark, the counterfeit can be easily detected by the shape of the numbers in the date. They look thin, and are not comparable to any genuine seated dollar.
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07-09-2008, 12:42 AM
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Funny, the guys English stinks and there are no returns.
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07-09-2008, 01:00 AM
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The seller's info says he is Massachusetts but by the way he writes I would have guessed China. Quote: | HI.I HAVE 1864 S LIBERTY .I DONT KNOW BUT ON THE COIN DONT SAY ANYTHING .......YOU CAN LOOK THE PIC .....IF YOU ARE KNOW COME IN TO BID .....START BID .99 ,DONT CARE HOW MUCH I JUST SELL IT.ANYWAY NO RETURN ANY.....THANKS | This is such an obvious fake that I can't understand how anyone can be fooled. This is an example where a Red Book pays for itself many, many times over. 1864-S indeed.
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07-09-2008, 01:16 AM
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All I can say is... wow!
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07-09-2008, 10:15 AM
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wow, I'm amazed that people bid on this stuff.
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07-09-2008, 12:09 PM
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Unless someone is bidding because it is a fake I don't feel sorry for someone that gets taken this easily. 5 minutes of research would show it is not real.
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07-09-2008, 12:43 PM
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"HI.I HAVE 1864 S LIBERTY .I DONT KNOW BUT ON THE COIN DONT SAY ANYTHING .......YOU CAN LOOK THE PIC .....IF YOU ARE KNOW COME IN TO BID .....START BID .99 ,DONT CARE HOW MUCH I JUST SELL IT.ANYWAY NO RETURN ANY.....THANKS "
Playing dumb?
Or truly dumb?
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07-09-2008, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Treashunt Playing dumb?
Or truly dumb? |
Maybe he's another Forrest Gump. Only without all the dumb luck and talent...
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07-09-2008, 02:31 PM
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IF YOU ARE KNOW COME IN TO BID
| Well, he is smarter than I. He at least thinks he knows what that says and I do not have a clue.
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07-09-2008, 03:23 PM
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This is such an obvious fake that I can't understand how anyone can be fooled
| Thats what I was thinking. Thats a horrible fake. It makes me wonder what else these people are out there buying.
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07-09-2008, 03:50 PM
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Won for $124. I'm surprised this auction wasn't pulled.
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07-09-2008, 03:53 PM
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I reported it, but eBay just does not look into these reports I guess. Is it against eBay rules to email the buyer?
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07-09-2008, 03:56 PM
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I believe it is against ebay policy to contact anyone you are not directly involved in a transaction with.
But there's a 50/50 chance someone will email the winner and tell him that the coin is counterfeit.
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07-09-2008, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TheOracle I reported it, but eBay just does not look into these reports I guess. Is it against eBay rules to email the buyer? | Oh! Yes! They look into such thing, but if you read the message as you send it, they say it takes 24 - 48 hours for their reaction. In this case, they are going to report it to another group who will take some more time. They will move, it just takes time.
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07-09-2008, 09:25 PM
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The winner just wanted to fill a hole in his album. Or, it'll be up for auction in a few weeks or so.
Bruce
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