CoinTalk

Welcome to Coin Talk! Register Now, it's easy and FREE!

Thousands of coin collectors, numismatists, coin dealers, bullion investors, and enthusiasts make Coin Talk their number one source for numismatic news, information about US and world coins, discussions and community.

You are currently viewing Coin Talk as a guest, which limits your access to content, contests and information. By joining our free community, you will be able to join in discussions, contact other members, place free advertisements, enter contests, and much more. Registration is easy and free. Register Now


Go Back   CoinTalk > Coin Forums > US Coins Forum

Notices

US Coins Forum This forum dedicated to the discussion of United States Coins.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 12-09-2004, 08:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
Tre
Member
 
Tre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: N'York
Posts: 66
Send a message via AIM to Tre
Metal content?

First off I'd like to point out that I'm a world coin collector. I collect to touch the world, not to invest for value. I recently recieved a lot of coins from various African nations, all in those little cardboard flips. Written on the flip is the date, country, and denomination (but not the grade, oddly)

Some also have a set of letters on them:

SS.
CP
BR/STL
BR
AL

I'm guessing these are meant to indicate the metal to coin was minted from, but I'm not sure. Can anyone clarify?

Tre is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 12-09-2004, 10:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
Coin Collector
 
susanlynn9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,311
I think you may be correct. I'm not sure about the "SS", but I would think that:
CP-Copper
BR/STL-Bronze-Steel (is this coin bi-metallic with an outer ring of a different material than the core?)
BR-Bronze
AL-Aluminum
Maybe someone else will have an idea of the "SS".
__________________
Susan
WINS#482
FLY-IN#1474
EAC#5255
CONECA#N-3902
Education....the key to collector success!
susanlynn9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2004, 10:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
Numismatist
 
GDJMSP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: PA
Posts: 24,342
SS = stainless steel.
__________________
knowledge ..... share it
GDJMSP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2004, 10:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
Coin Collector
 
susanlynn9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,311
Thanks, GD. I kept trying to make it work with "Silver" somehow.
__________________
Susan
WINS#482
FLY-IN#1474
EAC#5255
CONECA#N-3902
Education....the key to collector success!
susanlynn9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2004, 11:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
collect4fun's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Northern MI
Posts: 486
My Mood:
Quote:
Originally Posted by susanlynn9
Thanks, GD. I kept trying to make it work with "Silver" somehow.

Would they make coins of Sterling Silver (SS) ?
__________________
WINS # 534
MSNS #9969

It is every man's obligation to put back into the world at least the equivalent of what he takes out of it. --Albert Einstein
collect4fun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2004, 11:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
Numismatist
 
GDJMSP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: PA
Posts: 24,342
It has been done but rarely - and never a coin meant for circulation.
__________________
knowledge ..... share it
GDJMSP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2004, 12:35 AM   #7 (permalink)
Retired
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,822
Quote:
Originally Posted by collect4fun
Would they make coins of Sterling Silver (SS) ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by GDJMSP
It has been done but rarely - and never a coin meant for circulation.
Oh come on Doug, you know better than that.

The Great Britain pages of the 19th Century Krause are loaded with .925 silver pennies, 1-1/2, 2, and 3 pence, groats, shillings, florins, 1/2 crowns, double florins, and crowns; and the last time I checked, that was sterling silver. There are even a few in the early 20th Century.
__________________
Roy
satootoko is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2004, 01:07 AM   #8 (permalink)
Coin Collector
 
susanlynn9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,311
I thought that Sterling silver was jewelry grade and not the same purity as that used for coins.
__________________
Susan
WINS#482
FLY-IN#1474
EAC#5255
CONECA#N-3902
Education....the key to collector success!
susanlynn9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2004, 01:24 AM   #9 (permalink)
Numismatist
 
GDJMSP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: PA
Posts: 24,342
You're probably right Roy - what you say makes sense. But I've always thought sterling silver was .999.
__________________
knowledge ..... share it
GDJMSP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2004, 01:44 AM   #10 (permalink)
Retired
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,822
I guess anything from .925 to 1.000 qualifies Doug.
Quote:
Originally Posted by [URL=http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?tocId=9069628&query=sterling&ct=
Britannica Online[/URL]] Sterling is the standard of purity for silver. The term sterling silver denotes any silver alloy in which pure silver makes up at least 92.5 percent of the content.
__________________
Roy

Last edited by satootoko; 12-10-2004 at 01:47 AM.
satootoko is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2004, 05:27 AM   #11 (permalink)
JBK
Coin Collector
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,080
Interesting about the Sterling silver. I knew it was .925, but I did not know it was “at least” .925.

I guess someone would be stupid, though to make something of pure silver and mark it “sterling”, since they could alloy it down to .925 and still be able to mark it sterling.
JBK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2004, 10:58 AM   #12 (permalink)
Tre
Member
 
Tre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: N'York
Posts: 66
Send a message via AIM to Tre
Ah, thanks. Yeah, I was trying to make SS Sterling Silver too, but that didn't seem right. The coin is in incredibly good condition for that. Which... is why I decided to ask the experts.

"BR/STL-Bronze-Steel (is this coin bi-metallic with an outer ring of a different material than the core?)"
No, it is all a coppery color.
Tre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2004, 11:00 AM   #13 (permalink)
JBK
Coin Collector
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,080
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tre
Ah, thanks. Yeah, I was trying to make SS Sterling Silver too, but that didn't seem right. The coin is in incredibly good condition for that. Which... is why I decided to ask the experts.

"BR/STL-Bronze-Steel (is this coin bi-metallic with an outer ring of a different material than the core?)"
No, it is all a coppery color.
Probably a steel core, then. That is vetry common these days.
JBK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2004, 04:11 PM   #14 (permalink)
Coin Collector
 
Andy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Sunny Southwest Florida
Posts: 1,064
The word "Sterling" is the best known and most respected marking in use today. Pure silver alone is too soft for everyday use. Copper is the metal commonly used to give "Sterling" its added stiffness and wearing qualities. Sterling is often referred to as solid silver. It is composed of 925 parts pure silver in every 1000 -- this proportion never varies -- it is fixed by law. Gee I thought everybody learned this at finishing school.
__________________
We reap what we sow.
Andy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2004, 07:08 PM   #15 (permalink)
Retired
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,822
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy
It is composed of 925 parts pure silver in every 1000 -- this proportion never varies -- it is fixed by law.
And what law is that? I never ran across it in law school or in my 40 years of practice.
__________________
Roy
satootoko is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks
Would you like to support CoinTalk?

Coin Talk Code of Honor
1. Post unto others as you would have them post unto you.
2. Keep it clean, like a 1950s family television show.
3. If you don't like the coin, don't trash the person.

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Metal Content in these World Coins stainless World & Ancient Coins 2 11-26-2008 02:53 AM
Why do governments pick such odd numbers for metal content in coins? Harksaw US Coins Forum 2 10-23-2008 10:06 PM
Metal content of pesos? Jacen World & Ancient Coins 1 03-07-2007 06:43 AM
Metal Detecting Coinlover Coin Chat 34 08-07-2006 01:54 PM
Metal Content jmfsms US Coins Forum 5 04-28-2005 10:53 PM

» Newsletter
Sign up for CoinTalk's Newsletter
enter your email address below.
» Unanswered Posts
Do You Have the Answer?
» Sponsors

» Today's Top Posters
Top Posters in Last 1 Days
[40]
[30]
[20]
[19]
[19]
[17]
[17]
[15]
[13]
[13]

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:33 PM.


vBAdvertise v1.0.0 Copyright ©2009, PixelFX Studios
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007 - 2008, PixelFX Studios
Copyright 2008 CoinTalk
"Wiki" powered by VaultWiki v2.5.0.
Copyright © 2008 - 2010, Cracked Egg Studios.