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Old 04-04-2008, 12:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Help Grading 1984 DDO Cent

I found this from a bank roll last night (!) and was wondering if anyone could help me estimate a grade for it. There are some marks on the high points of the obverse but I think that's mainly due to being rolled and not necessarily wear. Am I correct in thinking this could be uncirculated?
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Old 04-04-2008, 12:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Talking about lucky. Looks at least BU in these pictures. So in hand It could bea high as MS63. Is that a scratch above the word Liberty?
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If I didn't know beter, I'd say that was a counterfeit... Admittedly, I don't look at many high-grade Lincoln's to have a strong feelings, and it seems rather far-fetched to imagine a counterfeit Lincoln (albeit a potentially valuable one), but those raised bumps concern me (perhaps some kind of lamination problem?).

That said, and acknowledging detecting counterfeits is not my strong suit, the coin looks mint state to me. LIke Oldman, I'm a bit concerned about the scratch/line above Liberty...Mike

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If I didn't know beter, I'd say that was a counterfeit... Admittedly, I don't look at many high-grade Lincoln's to have a strong feelings, and it seems rather far-fetched to imaging a counterfeit Lincoln, but those raised bumps concern me.

That said, and acknowledging detecting counterfeits is not my strong suit, the coin looks mint state to me. LIke Oldman, I'm a bit concerned about the scratch/line above Liberty...Mike
Thanks Mike!

There is a small line above LIBERTY that looks stronger in the photo than in hand, probably just the angle. The "goosebumps" are a common problem with the early copper-coated zinc cents and arise from gas bubbles that form when the coins are struck. It took the mint a few years to minimize their appearance and many coins from 1982 to 1986 exhibit this unfortunate look.
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I don't think it's a counterfeit, it looks contaminated. Looks like electrolysis going on under the surface of the copper coating.

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Thanks Mike!

There is a small line above LIBERTY that looks stronger in the photo than in hand, probably just the angle. The "goosebumps" are a common problem with the early copper-coated zinc cents and arise from gas bubbles that form when the coins are struck. It took the mint a few years to minimize their appearance and many coins from 1982 to 1986 exhibit this unfortunate look.
Thank you for posting that.

I'm doing so horribly lately with the countefeit discussions, I think I should keep my mouth shut.
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:20 PM   #7 (permalink)
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p.s. as aside, when taking a photograph of a coin, any lines that are perpendicular to the light will show up strongly. For instance in the above photo, the coin was lit from above (roughly 12 o'clock). As a result any line running horizontally across the coin will jump out. Conversely, if the coin was lit from the left or right, the line would be far less visible. Watch out for that when evaluating coins from photos.
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Talking about lucky. Looks at least BU in these pictures. So in hand It could bea high as MS63. Is that a scratch above the word Liberty?
Thanks for looking! Yes, there is a minor scratch above liberty that is more apparent in the photo than in hand.
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Great find! That is one of my favorite Lincoln errors. I found one also....from my dealer and for quite a few cents I may add..
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The bubbles are very common on the 1984 DDO.
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The bubbles are very common on the 1984 DDO.

Yep, with or without the Double Ear!


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Talking 84 ddo....

of course the really valuable ones are the ones............................without bubbles on the ear!
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Those bubbles are fairly common on the early plated issues 82-86 as the mint was really trying to perfect the process
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