weasle94

What is all over the steps of that later memorial lincoln?

CrustyCoins

It's not much but seems to be all I can afford these days. I like the chocolate color but need to replace this with one that does not have all the gouges and hits.

rlm's cents

It has been a while since I could take some pix. Been trying to set up a "table" for taking pix. Got the table, but trying to get the lighting set up....

Here is one of the hardest pix I have tried to take. Anyhow, I think I got close.

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jon67

Wow that is an awesome coin. i love it. Great pics also.

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Here's a close up of the date of my old 1909 doubled die

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This coin keeps changing. Here's the transition. Stored in Intercepts in ait-tite situation in Intercept box, dessicant, etc. I know Doug will ask if I put oil on this coin, but I have owned a year or two, and I don't remember. I'll assume yes, but it was back then and the coin just recently started changing. I like the colors. You can see the luster through the toning. I assume it wouldn't grade, but I would submit if I thought it would.
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4/09:




8/09:

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eddiespin

Hate to be the bearer of this news, Boss, but I have "oilers" that have changed/toned like that. The surface looks a little "flat," too, to me, suggesting an oil bath, at some point. Just going off the pics, of course. The good news is, you're right, this one looks to still have some luster left. I wonder, does that "cartwheel," any? Mine, which were in those long baths (and, then, once out, only rinsed under warm, running water, as I had said) totally lost all cartwheel effect (...unlike the others, which weren't in the baths). Still, I think, you have a nice-looking coin; FWIW...

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Boss

RLM- I got to say that coin is a bit odd looking IMHO. You don't think it was cleaned perhaps?

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rlm's cents

In hand, I am pretty sure that it has not been cleaned.

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Boss

Oh, RLM- can you post different photos of your 1911? Maybe angled shots to show the luster or with different lighting? Very interesting coin.

The 1909 of illini's is nice. The doubling on these is often subtle, in the ones I see. I really like the doubling on the 9

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illini420

The 1909 doubled die posted above is an MS62BN example of the FS-1101 which is the stronger of the two 1909 doubled dies. The less prominent FS-1102 is much less visible and is also significantly less valuable, even though several eBay sellers try to sell them at the FS-1101 prices

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jello

Nice 31 Boss!!

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Boss

Where have you been eddiespin?? Good to hear from you. I always cut the oil with acetone or xylene. Using warm water (which I have tried) will cause the oil to trap some of the water and make a weird film. I wonder if you soaked any of those old coins in acetone, maybe 10-20 min, two more dips, distilled water and canned air what would they look like? Like I said, I can't remember for the life of me if I oiled this coin or not (I am assuming I did). Mind you I have graded coins, full RD, I submitted with light coats of mineral oil that graded with PCGS and NGC that look the same now. I will only do that for RB coins now, and mostly don't do it much these days. I would be estatic if this were to grade but don't want to sink any more money I don't have anyway, into Genuine or Details grading fees.

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eddiespin

I think it will grade, in spite of what I said. I think it would be a shame to hold it back on mere suspicions. Submit it, and let them decide. That's what they get paid for. It looks good enough.

Where have I been? Getting clobbered by the "yes, yes, yes, arf, arf, arf" crowd for some unpopular positions I took in some other threads. I'll live.

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OK, boss. You asked for some different pix of the 1911. These may not be any better, but they are different. Just remember that this coin is mostly brown. Most of the "red" you are seeing is the lighter parts of the graining which is typically more yellow than red.

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The monkeys stand for honesty, Giraffes are insincere,
And the elephants are kindly but They're dumb.
Orangutans are skeptical Of changes in their cages,
And the zoo keeper is very fond of rum.