1916-D mercury dime, another scam - Page 3

mi chael · 01-28-2008, 10:05 AM

It is absolutely a d. Poorly done, it's missing the lower legs but still a d - a Russian d. I didn't know the US minted any dimes in Russia. Maybe it was in the Rotarian's area D. Maybe it stands for something else. whichever way you look at it a VERY rare coin that must be worth MILLIONS!

Treashunt · 01-28-2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Goldman

User ID's are kept private..It's a bad fake. not even close. I don't understand why people even bid on this coin.

Actually, Ed, probably not a fake.
Just a poorly struck MM.
Nice 'S' tho.

Treashunt · 01-28-2008, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mr merc

This guys ebay id is qualitycoinsforcollectors. I believe he should change it to forgerycoinsforsuckers. I reported this guy before I even posted here. I also sent him a message asking him to remove the listing as the coin was obviously altered.

As I stated above, probably not altered MM.
Just poorly struck, and it does look like an S.

mikenoodle · 01-28-2008, 02:24 PM

IMHO it doesn't look like an "s", it looks like as 900fine said "like a drop of solder", but blob "s" mint marks are common

vipergts2 · 01-28-2008, 03:10 PM

I just dropped a line to Susan McMillan. She should be interested in this one.

mr merc · 01-28-2008, 03:38 PM

Frank may have a point ,it looks like an s from the one reverse photo, but the closeup looks like something, I don't know what has been done to the mintmark. 5 days to go and the bid is up to $305. With all the complaints I'm suprised the listing is still there. If ebay removes the listing the guy will probably get in contact somehow with the high bidder, make up some bs story and try to sell it to him for his high bid.

Treashunt · 01-28-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by vipergts2

I just dropped a line to Susan McMillan. She should be interested in this one.

Who is Susan McMillan?

vipergts2 · 01-28-2008, 04:07 PM

The lead counterfiet detector at the ANA. She has helped in the past to get ebay frauds booted.

Fullbands · 01-28-2008, 04:17 PM

Using photos from Lange's book, I can see it as a filled MM on one of the repunched "S" dies. The notch in the lower left corner, and the overall outline leads me in that direction. The PCGS Counterfeit guide also states that the MM punch for 16-D is the same as used on the 14-D cent. That blob is nowhere near the shape of that MM. I tried to find some other die diagnostics for the 16-D but you wouldn't be able see them from those photos.

As always, your mileage may vary...

Rick L.

mr merc · 01-28-2008, 05:32 PM

Quote from Breen's Encyclopedia " Forgeries are plentiful, most often fabricated by affixing mintmarks to genuine Philadelphia coins, or by altering S to D on genuine 1916 S coins. The Busby gang made thousands in Los Angeles (1958); others made tens of thousands more in Milwaukee ca. 1968-73, and elsewhere in later years, in all grades. Cast counterfeits also exist. Authentication is mandatory!"
Sounds like this may be one of those coins.

Ed Goldman · 01-28-2008, 06:14 PM

This coin is genuine. It is a 1916-N Mercury dime minted at No such mint.

vipergts2 · 01-31-2008, 08:26 AM

I can't belive it, the bid is up to $760.00.

Treashunt · 01-31-2008, 09:05 AM

Lets be fair, the seller added:
On Jan-25-08 at 06:56:07 PST, seller added the following information:

"ONCE AGAIN EVERYONE THIS IS A POSSIBLE 1916 D.

THE D IS NOT CLEAR.

YOU LOOK AT THE PHOTOS AND DECIDE FOR YOURSELF.

THE MINTMARK IS UP WHERE IT SHOULD BE AND TILTED AS IT SHOULD BE FOR A D MINTMARK.

THIS COULD BE AN S BUT IT HAS THE RIGHT POSITION FOR A "D"

THANKS"

So, it, once again, is the buyer's stupidity that rules.