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Old 01-11-2008, 03:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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New 20 cent piece

A while ago I was forced to sell the 20 cent piece I had, but today I just received a new one that I bought that's actually an improvement (and cost me slightly less!)





Any thoughts as to grade? Looks like a pretty solid EF to me.

Love obsolete denominations and short lived coins... no other US coin exemplifies both as well as a 20 cent piece lol...

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Old 01-11-2008, 03:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
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i was thinking vf personally but its a very nice coin one of my fav designs
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Old 01-11-2008, 03:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm gonna say EF-40 but the coin looks cleaned to me. (I could be wrong.)

That is a VERY nice looking coin. Wish I owned it, neighbor.
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It looks whizzed but I hope I am wrong.
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Old 01-11-2008, 06:32 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Beautiful looking coin,but looks to be definately cleaned.Still a keeper either way.
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Old 01-11-2008, 06:56 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Cleaned....sorry
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Old 01-11-2008, 06:58 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Easy XF coin but I'm afraid it's cleaned as well.

Still a real nice coin and I love the series and all those odd denominations as well.
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:00 AM   #8 (permalink)
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cleaned but very nice example .
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:29 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Wow, I was going to post this question hoping I don't offend the OP, but then I read all the posts before mine and it looks I won't be the first.

On the obverse, it looked like there were directional lines, but with scans, you can't always tell. But then I noticed that in almost every recessed point on the obverse, it was darker and didn't match the fields. I'm talking about the areas around the stars, around liberty, around the date, and also between all the lines around the rim.

I'm new to evaluating coins at this level. Since almost all of my coins are pulled from circulation, I've never worried about such things, until I pulled a few higher end coins out of circulation. So now, I'm just trying to work on my skills of how one would diagnose such a thing.

So feel free to tell me if I'm dead on in identifying the symptoms, or am way off.

Either way, I think OP bought a nice looking example of this type and it does contain about all of the details.
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Wow, I was going to post this question hoping I don't offend the OP, but then I read all the posts before mine and it looks I won't be the first.

On the obverse, it looked like there were directional lines, but with scans, you can't always tell. But then I noticed that in almost every recessed point on the obverse, it was darker and didn't match the fields. I'm talking about the areas around the stars, around liberty, around the date, and also between all the lines around the rim.

I'm new to evaluating coins at this level. Since almost all of my coins are pulled from circulation, I've never worried about such things, until I pulled a few higher end coins out of circulation. So now, I'm just trying to work on my skills of how one would diagnose such a thing.

So feel free to tell me if I'm dead on in identifying the symptoms, or am way off.

Either way, I think OP bought a nice looking example of this type and it does contain about all of the details.
These were pictures taken by the person who sold me the coin; not sure if they're scans or pictures, but the fact the coin's color matches what it looks like in hand suggest probably pictures (scans are great at picking up coin detail but bad at picking up color). Having the coin in hand it's definitely not whizzed as someone posted, but yes, it's probably been cleaned at some point. (Virtually all coins this old have been at some point.) Not harshly though and not in a way that caused significant damage, so that's fine with me. I'm not rabidly "anti-cleaned" as long as the coin's not significantly damaged in the process. All the details are there, even where it's worn you can still see a hint of all the details, can just barely see the eagle's eye on the reverse, and "Liberty" is fully readable.

I've never bought into the idea that a coin having been cleaned at some point makes it worthless... it should lower the value a bit, but as long as it hasn't done been harshly it shouldn't somehow make the coin valueless. Besides, almost all coins this old that were intentionally saved by a collector have been cleaned at some point so it's not like you can avoid getting a cleaned coin unless you can find one in mint state (usually beyond affordability for me lol...)

Anywho I paid slightly less than EF money for this; seems fair since it's definitely EF with a little taken off the price for it having been cleaned.
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Anywho I paid slightly less than EF money for this; seems fair since it's definitely EF with a little taken off the price for it having been cleaned.
I think you did well and I agree with your thinking on pricing. It looks like a lower to mid-EF coin that has been cleaned.

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The strange thing is... many other European countries use the 20/100 denomination, and I dont believe its too often that a country uses 25/100 - lol.
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