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Old 04-04-2007, 12:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Smile Specialized Banknotes Collection

I decided to start this topic on specialization in CoinTalk forum. I did that to a few other forum which I frequent.

What is specialization ? I wrote something earlier in one of the thread in this forum. I will paste it here.

Specialization will help to further the joy of a collector. Whenever a new piece that fits into one's specialized collection, there is a sense of achievement and joy. Specialization will also help to further understand in-depth knowledge of your collection. You may even found some unknown varieties of coins or banknotes or information which have never been documented. This is very true for past coins and banknotes or even ancient coins and artifacts.

I will compare this to great discoveries such as going into the deep forest of Borneo or the Amazon, you spotted an unknown animal such as the recent unknown species of leopard. If you specializes and work as a Marine Biologist, you may explore the deep ocean and discover a whole world of unknown creatures. It is just a comparsion although we would have discovered most of things in coins and banknotes by now.

The benefits of specialization will be still outweigh one who do not specialize.

Specialized collection can be in any varieties. Collecting banknotes with trains, aeroplane, ship, Chinese junks, QEII Portraits and specific solid and fancy numbers. In my case I collect world banknotes with solid number 555555 and 888888.

Finally, do find your own area of specialization. You cannot collect every banknote in this world but you can choose to collect specific banknotes for your collection. I have nothing against those who do not specialized. It is individual preference of collecting. A collection with a specific theme will help to impress viewers and also provide important and in-depth information on the theme collection.

Do you have a specialized banknote collection ?

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Old 04-04-2007, 12:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Kenya solid number 555555 Collection - http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?t=23509
Canada solid number 5555555 Collection - http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?t=23464
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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My latest acquisition on 29 Mar 2007.

Thailand 1000 Baht Top-Notch Prefix A Super Solid 8A 8888888

This is the top and most sought after example of a Thailand highest currency denomination 1000 Baht and super prefix A with super solid 8A 8888888. It has 8 digits of number 8 making it number 1 collectiable in the world of all 8s among specialist collectors. Thailand currency notes are popular collectiable as it features the world longest serving king. The Thai King is well respected by his people.

It is extremely hard to find and acquire due to the first prefix A and a super solid prefix 8 to match the rest of the solid number 8888888. The note is in orginal choice uncirculated condition. You can see that the King is a keen photographer as shown on the reverse of this 1000 Baht note.





Bhumibol Adulyadej (Thai: ภูมิพลอดุลยเดช; IPA: [pʰu:mipʰon adunjadeːt]; Royal Institute: Phumiphon Adunyadet; listen (help·info)) (born December 5, 1927), officially styled "the Great" (Thai: มหาราช, Maharaja) and also known as Rama IX, is the current King of Thailand. His name, Bhumibol Adulyadej, means "Strength of the Land, Incomparable Power". Having reigned since June 9, 1946, Bhumibol is the world's longest-serving current head of state and the longest-serving monarch in Thai history

Although Bhumibol is a constitutional monarch, he has several times made decisive interventions in Thai politics, including the 2005-2006 Thai political crisis. Bhumibol has been widely credited with facilitating Thailand's transition to democracy in the 1990s, although in earlier periods of his reign he supported military regimes. Most recently, he did not oppose the September 2006 coup which overthrew the elected government of Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

Bhumibol uses his great wealth to fund numerous development projects, particularly in rural areas. He is immensely popular in Thailand, and is revered as a semi-divine figure by many Thais. Critics, mostly outside Thailand, attribute this status to the suppression of criticism of the monarchy.

Bhumibol was born in the United States and educated primarily in Switzerland. Bhumibol is also an accomplished musician, artist, and sailor. He is one of the wealthiest people in the world and has received many honours.

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Old 04-04-2007, 12:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Derrick those are very nice banknotes you have got there.I just prefer to collect British Commonwealth only.

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Old 04-04-2007, 03:58 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Acquire this note yesterday. I am really happy to add this piece into my 555555 collection.

A scarce 1938 Thailand 1 Baht solid 55555 ( only 5 digits serial number ) Type 4. He is King Rama 8.

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Old 04-04-2007, 04:24 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Derrick,King Rama VIII is better known as King Ananda Mahidol, who was the last King of Siam (1935-39) & the first King of Thailand (1939-46).

Here's an article; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ananda_Mahidol .

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Old 04-05-2007, 08:48 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Another Thailand solid 888888 acquisition.

A 1950s Rama 9 1 Baht 888888. A popular number among collectors.



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Old 04-05-2007, 11:30 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I was looking at some of the actions on ebay and came across 4 solid numbers. All are numbered 000000 and they are specimen notes, 10 centavo, 20 centavo, 50 centavo & 200 pesos. All the notes are from Argentina.

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Old 04-05-2007, 11:46 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Specimen notes

Specimen notes collecting is a specialized area. I do not go into specimen notes. They are not classified as solid numbers. Solid numbers are those banknotes with all same numbers such as 111111, 222222....999999 and 1000000. Solid numbers are termed by the Americans. In some Asian countries, they are termed as golden numbers.

There are a big differences between specimen notes and solid number notes. Solid number notes are circulation notes which bear a unique serial number ( including prefix ) while specimen notes are produced to be given to various countries as specimen. There is no public record on the mintage of these specimen notes. Some specimen notes do have a mintage number printed on it. There are also printer's specimen notes. These are usually highly in demand.

Here is a collector who specializes on world specimen notes.

http://www.pbase.com/vanjog/bank_notes_specimens
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Acquired these two 1949 series beauties today.

Philipppines uncirculated 10 Pesos with serial number 888888. Both are signed by different president of Philippines. Both notes are signed by Acting and Governor of the Central Bank of Philippines, Andres V. Castillo. The Presidents were Carlos P. Garcia ( 1957 - 1961 ) and Diosdado Macapagal ( 1961 - 1965 ).


Carlos P. Garcia (November 4, 1896 - June 1, 1971). He presided over the eight months of Magsaysay’s remaining term and went on to win the 1957 elections, “the noisiest and the most expensive in Philippine history.”


Garcia hailed from Talibon, Bohol. He finished his law studies at the Philippine Law School in Manila. He passed the Bar examinations and was among the top ten.

His election as Bohol representative to the National Assemblly in 1952 marked his entry into Philippine politics and public service – one of the longest ever. He was again reelected as a representative. In 1931, he started the first of this three terms as governor of Bohol. In 1941, he was elected as a senator, but it was only in 1945 that he took office because of World War II. He was again reelected as a senator and in 1953, he became Vice President to Magsaysay. He was appointed in a concurrent capacity as secretary of foreign affairs.

Garcia’s administration (1957 - 1961) was anchored in his austerity program. It was also noted for its Filipino First policy – an attempt to boost economic independence.

Diosdado Macapagal (September 28, 1910). He defeated Garcia in the presidential elections of November 14, 1961.


Mapacagal – who styled himself as the “poor boy” from Lubao (Pampanga) – completed pre-law and Associate in Arts at UP; however, he was a law graduate of the University of Santo Tomas. He was the topnotcher of the Bar examinations in 1935. He then entered into a private law practice, teaching law at the side. In 1946, he was appointed Chief of the Legal Division of the Department of Foreign Affairs and was eventually sent to the Philippine Embassy in Washington as Second Secretary.

In 1949, he was elected as the congressman of the first district of Pampanga and reelected in 1953. In 1958, he was elected as Vice President of the Philippines.

Macapagal’s administration (1961 - 1965) is best remembered for resetting the date of the celebration of Philippine Independence Day – from July 4 when the U.S. turned over the reins of government in 1946 to the more correct date of June 12 when Aguinaldo declared independence in 1898. This single act overshadowed the other distinguishing features of his administration, namely: the promotion of the stability of the Philippine currency; the initiation of a socioeconomic program aimed at the betterment of the poor; efforts to combat misdeeds in government, and the launching of his version of agrarian reform.

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Do you have a specialized banknote collection ?
Apart from collecting paper money from other countries, I try to specialize in Indian paper money.

Here is one set of those 500 Rs. bills with some fancy numbers.


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Apart from collecting paper money from other countries, I try to specialize in Indian paper money.

Here is one set of those 500 Rs. bills with some fancy numbers.


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Very nice. The double letter prefix will fetch higher prices, e.g. 6CC 333333. In addition, the matching prefix number with the serial number will also fetch high prices and term as super solid e.g. 5AA 555555. The prefix letters also affect the pricing as well. Eg. 1AA 111111, 8AA 888888, 5EE 555555. As A = 1, naturally, they are considered all 1s. An E = 5, the same principle apply. Prefix AA is also more desirable than other prefix letter. As A is always the first prefix. It depends on how the prefix are being used by different currencies. In Singapore, we use A/1, AA, OAA as the first prefix. Current UK prefix is AA01 or A01. In Hong Kong, they use AA while Philippines uses A. Prefix also play an important factor in determing the pricing.
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Very nice.
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term as super solid e.g. 5AA 555555.
And I think an example of Super Solid will be 5EE 555555 and not with double letter as AA.

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You are right. Super solids can be expanded into a few categories.

In the earlier notes, when most of Thomas De La Rue or Waterlow and Sons uses the fractional prefixes such A/1, A/55 etc, it is determine by the matching prefix number. Example A/55 555555 and D/55 555555 They are also know as super solids as well.

Many countries today have switch to prefix ?AA.?AA such as Singapore, India and Thailand. It is still term as super solid as long as it matches the prefix number as in 5AA 555555. As for 5EE 555555, it is a super solid with a matching letter. It is an additional weightage into the numbering. In addition, if the note denomination is a $5 or 5 pound or $50 or $500, there is still a further increase in value of the note. Surpringly, as in the case of 8AA 888888, collectors will choose prefix AA instead of 8HH 888888. Historically, AA represent the first prefix in any numbering of serial number. They are popular among collectors. I should say that collectors have a weakness for an AA prefix.

An example of another group of super solid number without prefix numbering is this piece in my Japanese solid collection.

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Here is my complete set of India solid 555555 ( current Gandhi series ) which I acquired in 2004 when I first started with world solid banknotes.

http://www.notepassion.com/NP-BN-WS-555555-India.html
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