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03-14-2007, 01:13 AM
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| Counterfeit 1862 $2 Note - Look on the Back...
I know for a fact that this a real counterfeit note. But look on the back... there is someones name written, I believe it to be the name of Pete McCartney considered one of the three Great counterfeiters of the late 1800's. I believe his name was written on the back to identify that it's one of his counterfeits. There isn't much info online about him, but there is book I'm reading that has quite a bit of info on him.
What do you think?
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03-14-2007, 02:30 AM
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Weird. Do you own it? Or is it something you found online? Still, a pretty neat note. Even if it is fake.
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03-14-2007, 10:52 AM
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I own it. Yeah, was just checking it over and comparing it to a genuine note and saw this name.
I was like, this can't be! Very weird if you ask me.
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03-15-2007, 12:03 AM
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I was thinking this would be a cool item for a coin or paper money magazine to do an article on.
Who would be a good contact/s?
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03-15-2007, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Stop Motion I was thinking this would be a cool item for a coin or paper money magazine to do an article on.
Who would be a good contact/s?
Thanks,
SM | A good contact magazine? If that is the question then the first thing that comes to mind for me would be CoinWorld. There are probably others, but that is the only thing that comes to mind right now. Good luck.
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03-15-2007, 10:26 AM
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IF you could definitely show that it was his signature then it would be interesting and possibly worthy of an article. If you can't then it is just a counterfeit note with someones name written on the back. To me the name appears to be McCarty not McCartney. I can't make out anything for a first name. I think it is a great idea, but you need a little more proof at the moment.
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03-16-2007, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Conder101 IF you could definitely show that it was his signature... <snip> To me the name appears to be McCarty not McCartney. | Looks like McCarty, but on the point of it being his signature... I'd think it's more likely that either it's just some random name (questionable as it's close to the name posted above), or if it is referring to McCartney, someone merely identified it as "one of his" when it was stamped (though they didn't spell it right) -and made a notation on the back.
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03-16-2007, 10:51 AM
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Correct, that is what I meant to get across. I believe it was written by some person to identify that it was one of his notes, not written by the counterfeiter. I also believe that the person who wrote it could have not know how to spell it correctly. But, it being this close to the way the books spell it, and from the research I've down. I can't find another man with this name that would have counterfeited this note during its circulation peroid.
Also, McCartney was in Top gear when the governmnet released the Greenback notes in 1862, so that also shines some light that it could be one of his notes.
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03-16-2007, 10:27 PM
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Looks like an 'S' on top and a 'B' under followed by OG
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03-16-2007, 10:53 PM
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Here is my altered 1886 $1.00 bill into a $10.
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03-17-2007, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jwevansv Here is my altered 1886 $1.00 bill into a $10. | That is Awesome! I really want to find an altered note. I know a coin dealer you has a raised note, but won't sell it. Arghh!
Thanks for sharing!
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03-17-2007, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jwevansv Here is my altered 1886 $1.00 bill into a $10. | Wow. That is awesome. Really neat.
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03-16-2007, 10:45 PM
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eww this is a good read about the counterfeit bills
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03-17-2007, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Twiggs I found a good pic of your note and the only difference I could see was that yours had an extra serial number in the bottom left corner | I didn't buy my altered bill, I inherited it from a great uncle that passed away. I don't know what bill you were looking at. The only place I have a pic of this note is on this site. If you saw my same note in a pic somewhere else I would like to know where.
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