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02-07-2007, 10:56 AM
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never seen a coin like this. its a 1975 lincoln cent. but on the "heads" side, 'tails' is stamped over lincolns face and body, and the words "ONE CENT" that is on a penny's tails side is also on the heads side, only it is BACKWARDS.... there is only one of these, and ...oh man this is one of a kind... i have looked through every place on the web, and i cant find anything even near approaching this..... i am scared to auction it, as i am hoping someone can tell me something about this penny first. its two different metals also, two colors of brown. does anyone know about this...its obviously at least two coins , as if one coin was used as the stamp or die.... its amazing.... anyone heard of this?
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02-07-2007, 11:27 AM
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a few pictures would help, but the overwhelming odds are that it was made by placing some pennies in a vice or press. If caused by a die, the lettering would be correct.
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02-07-2007, 11:36 AM
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that wouldnt do it... the "T" on the tails side could not be changed like that with a press, and the two metals are melted but separated ...its one coin.... i will post pics, but i have to hook my scanner up...its all i have to take pics with......may be check back later or tomorrow...
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02-07-2007, 12:52 PM
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My Mood:  | That proves it right there---its fake.
It is what is called a hammered or squeezed job.
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04-09-2007, 02:52 PM
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i work at a shell station, and i opened the roll of pennies and it was inside, and i believe this had to occur naturally, as there are two distinct colors to the coin, melted into one coin, the center inner diameter, especially on the reverse is a lighter brown in the center, and wouldnt this be kept if someone went to this much trouble to remelt the whole coin and restamp it..... no way, this happened naturally, with another coin in and some other condition not caused by another coin, but in the making of it, as even the inside of the coin is affected.
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04-10-2007, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Speedy That proves it right there---its fake.
It is what is called a hammered or squeezed job.
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Speedy:
I agree, unless it was struck with a capped die.
It would have to be authenticated.
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04-09-2007, 02:57 PM
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Just a min....who said ANYTHING about remelting it and then restriking it???....they don't do that....they take the normal coin, and 2 other coins, and then by placing some pennies in a vice or press....either pressing the vice really tight or even just hammering it together will get the kindof coin you have.
If you can post photos we can be more sure of what we are talking about.
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04-09-2007, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedy Just a min....who said ANYTHING about remelting it and then restriking it???....they don't do that....they take the normal coin, and 2 other coins, and then by placing some pennies in a vice or press....either pressing the vice really tight or even just hammering it together will get the kindof coin you have.
If you can post photos we can be more sure of what we are talking about.
Speedy | i have a phone camera, and a scanner, but its unhooked so i could attach my new printer. andi have to go get my check..., but i'll have it up... also how can you tell a 1989 double die cent?
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04-09-2007, 05:40 PM
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I don't find a listing of a 1989 DD cent---maybe you could post a photo of that coin also.
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04-09-2007, 11:09 PM
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04-09-2007, 11:59 PM
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I really wish you would take a deep breathe and listen to the advice of the more expeienced people who have offered their opinion.
From what you have described, you almost definitley have a coin someone has messed with outside of the Mint. I used to do this sort of thing when I was a kid. Maybe you have one that I made.
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04-10-2007, 09:14 AM
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I haven't see many Capped die error so I'm not up on this---does the detail become "backwards" on the coin it strikes when it is a Capped Die?
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04-10-2007, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedy Frank
I haven't see many Capped die error so I'm not up on this---does the detail become "backwards" on the coin it strikes when it is a Capped Die?
Speedy | Capped die pieces and/or brockages have the lettering REVERSED.....so yes, from his description it could be a capped die piece.....
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04-18-2007, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Speedy Frank
I haven't see many Capped die error so I'm not up on this---does the detail become "backwards" on the coin it strikes when it is a Capped Die?
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Speedy:
Yes, one coin sticks to the die, and any relief is then reversed in the new planchet.
They are scarce (I never use rare) and highly collectible.
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04-10-2007, 07:05 PM
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the guys would probably be able to judge it better if they had pics  | |
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