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    Question Need opinions on this 1994 Double Strike Lincoln

    I recently got this coin into my collection of many double strikes, and what seems to be different about this compared to the vast majority of mine is this: On the obverse, you can clearly see the double strike, however, on the reverse, it seems to me like a blank coin slammed it, therefor spreading the word "CENT" and not overlapping a second image of the coin. Tell me if I'm correct, and if so, a possible value of this coin? Is this one rarer than most double strikes? Thanks folks!

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    I'm thinking its an off center die cap but do not know for sure.

    I do know that these things can sometimes get all jammed up in the coining press producing some rather interesting groupings of coins.

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    I love multiple strike coins! one of these days i'll find one in a slab and buy one.

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    That's a cool coin. It helps to understand how it came to be.

    Your coin was struck normally (Strike #1) and ejected from the coining chamber. Then a blank planchet entered the coining chamber but your coin remained partially in the coining chamber over the blank planchet. When the obverse die struck the next coin (Strike #2) it made a second strike on the part of your coin that was still in the coining chamber. The obverse die struck the obverse of your coin but the reverse of your coin was struck by the blank planchet. So the reverse die did not strike that portion of your coin because the blank planchet was between your coin and the reverse die. A partial brockage was the result. The reverse of your coin was distorted by the blank planchet in the collar. And your coin also left a reverse image on the coin in the collar (also a partial brockage).
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    The proper attribution for the error would be "double struck w/ partial brockage". Click here to enlarge

    Value? Ehh, $20-$30 would a fair estimate depending on where you were to sell.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Kid_Collector Click here to enlarge
    I love multiple strike coins! one of these days i'll find one in a slab and buy one.
    A lot of these double strikes don't fit into the slabs, so if you do get one, it'll probably be a very minuscule error compared to this one. And I think "Why slabbed?"

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    Great explanation Hobo, thank you. Just one question. Is this type of a double strike more rare than others? Also meaning...should this one be sent to PCGS?

    My local dealer had an exact coin like this, just the opposite. And it was also a Susan B. Anthony dollar. It was in a PCGS slab, graded, and certified. The difference was on the Susan B, the date on the front was pressed larger, instead of my coin having the word CENT enlarged. My dealer had a pricetag of 1000 bucks on it.

    So is it more rare?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VDBforDave Click here to enlarge
    Is this type of a double strike more rare than others? Also meaning...should this one be sent to PCGS?
    #1 - I would venture to say about 50% of the late-90s double struck Lincoln cents also include partial brockages.

    #2 - Cost of the submission fees would likely total out to more than the coin is truly worth. Having errors attributed by PCGS is pretty expensive.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VDBforDave Click here to enlarge
    My local dealer had an exact coin like this, just the opposite. And it was also a Susan B. Anthony dollar. It was in a PCGS slab, graded, and certified. The difference was on the Susan B, the date on the front was pressed larger, instead of my coin having the word CENT enlarged. My dealer had a pricetag of 1000 bucks on it.

    So is it more rare?
    Yes. Susan B. Anthony double-struck coin are indeed rare, and they do fetch sums close to what your dealer friend is asking.

    Infact, I saw an apx. 70% off-center flipover double-struck SBA dollar - uncertified - realize almost $1200.00 on eBay last week. Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by iGradeMS70 Click here to enlarge
    Yes. Susan B. Anthony double-struck coin are indeed rare, and they do fetch sums close to what your dealer friend is asking.

    Infact, I saw an apx. 70% off-center flipover double-struck SBA dollar - uncertified - realize almost $1200.00 on eBay last week. Click here to enlarge

    -Brian
    Ok makes sense now. Thanks for all the info!

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    way more than $20 to $30. I'd say 50 - 100.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by robbudo Click here to enlarge
    way more than $20 to $30. I'd say 50 - 100.
    That's more like it. Do you mind explaining why?
    Most single strikes sell for 7-15 bucks. I know this.
    Doubles usually around 15-30? I may be wrong?
    So why is this coin in your opinion 50-100

    Thanks robbudo

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Hobo Click here to enlarge
    That's a cool coin. It helps to understand how it came to be.

    Your coin was struck normally (Strike #1) and ejected from the coining chamber. Then a blank planchet entered the coining chamber but your coin remained partially in the coining chamber over the blank planchet. When the obverse die struck the next coin (Strike #2) it made a second strike on the part of your coin that was still in the coining chamber. The obverse die struck the obverse of your coin but the reverse of your coin was struck by the blank planchet. So the reverse die did not strike that portion of your coin because the blank planchet was between your coin and the reverse die. A partial brockage was the result. The reverse of your coin was distorted by the blank planchet in the collar. And your coin also left a reverse image on the coin in the collar (also a partial brockage).
    After reading this again, it made me wonder. Does this mean there is a duplicate opposite of this exact coin?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Hobo Click here to enlarge
    That's a cool coin. It helps to understand how it came to be.

    Your coin was struck normally (Strike #1) and ejected from the coining chamber. Then a blank planchet entered the coining chamber but your coin remained partially in the coining chamber over the blank planchet. When the obverse die struck the next coin (Strike #2) it made a second strike on the part of your coin that was still in the coining chamber. The obverse die struck the obverse of your coin but the reverse of your coin was struck by the blank planchet. So the reverse die did not strike that portion of your coin because the blank planchet was between your coin and the reverse die. A partial brockage was the result. The reverse of your coin was distorted by the blank planchet in the collar. And your coin also left a reverse image on the coin in the collar (also a partial brockage).
    how does that coin get into the hands of a collector? does mint sell them, mint bags?, how?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bkozak33 Click here to enlarge
    how does that coin get into the hands of a collector? does mint sell them, mint bags?, how?
    Mint bags indeed.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by robbudo Click here to enlarge
    way more than $20 to $30. I'd say 50 - 100.
    Can someone please explain why this one is going for 295.00 on ebay, and if thats fair price? Also, what's the difference between the '64 and mine?
    Thanks!

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-D-LINCO...item3a6b302313

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