Copper, Tin, Titanium, & Nickel Bullion

**Diphawk** · 08-08-2012 10:34 AM

I'm currious what the cummunity thinks about this stuff. I've been considering the addition of small amounts of these items to my stash. I realize the disconnect between paper contract (spot) cost and bullion premiums are vast. However, I do feel comfortable with a moderate amount of speculation considering it was actually mined and assayed to be pure and trust THAT vs. fiat in the event of a barter situation. Thoughts?

**medoraman** · 08-08-2012 10:40 AM

Not a fan of any of them to hold personally. They are not precious metals, are used in industrial quantites, and any small amounts you would buy would be at a horrendous premium. For non precious metals, I consider buying stock in firms that mine the metal a better investment than physically holding the metal especially due to the sky high premiums, as well as bulkiness factor versus value.

If you wish to invest in metals, PM and their small premiums is the only avenue I would advise. If you wish to invest in metals that have more industrial application than jewelry and investment, I would suggest platinum and palladium.

**ikandiggit** · 08-08-2012 10:57 AM

Ditto to what medorman said. The other items really mean nothing as collectibles for investment. If you want to go that route, then look at buying stock in them rather than paying premiums to some guy flogging these as "investments" with potential.

**Diphawk** · 08-08-2012 11:03 AM

Thanks Medoraman, hadn't really considered the mining stock alternative. I'll do some research. I'm pretty much a physical ownership type....but it needs to make sense. I realize owning these bars and rounds is uter speculation. Bulkiness is something else I hadn't thought of.

**justafarmer** · 08-08-2012 01:33 PM

If you really want to invest in the above in small amounts and hold in case of fiat collapse the US Nickel is your best bet. It is 75% copper and 25% nickel and manufactured to strict tolerances.

**sunflower** · 08-12-2012 01:13 AM

Well. Don't do what I do. But since you asked about a topic that I happen to enjoy, read on.....

This is what I have done:
200 pounds plus of copper shot/wire chops (paid between 3 &4$ a pound)
200 pounds plus of one pound titanium bars (paid 25$ each)
$1000 face of real Jefferson nickels - bags and rolls
$200 face of Zinc and copper mixed rolls of Lincoln cents.
5 ounces of Rhodium (paid <1400 an oz).

Again, I am saying that I have been wise. So far it is early. I have no idea that it will work out well or not. The conscences is that I made a poor choice.

I consider the Rhodium, and titanium as speculation. I also have Forever stamps, and various single digit stamps on sealed rolls and pads.

I also hoard JFK clad halves. They are popular and slowly slipping out of ciruclation in my parts (the midwest).

Since you appear so open to diversification, don't forget about extra dry and canned food, and a water filter. Put guns, ammo, and training on the list too.

Have fun.

**sunflower** · 08-12-2012 01:15 AM

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Oh boy. That looks like a good omen or Freudian Slip. I liked how it read so I did not edit.

**SilverForLife** · 08-12-2012 11:44 PM

Mass Inflation Ahead -- Save Your Nickels!
http://www.survivalblog.com/nickels.html

**elijahhenry10** · 08-12-2012 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by SilverForLife

Mass Inflation Ahead -- Save Your Nickels!
http://www.survivalblog.com/nickels.html

To me, it's a complete and utter joke.

**SilverForLife** · 08-13-2012 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by elijahhenry10

To me, it's a complete and utter joke.

Maybe, but 1964 many had the same idea.

**elijahhenry10** · 08-13-2012 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by SilverForLife

Maybe, but 1964 many had the same idea.

There's just a bit of a difference though. Last year alone, about 52 Billion ounces of nickel were mined. In the history of man, only about 45 billion of ounces have been mined. There is a much larger supply of nickel than silver, and I mean a MUCH bigger one. Just my thoughts though.

**SilverForLife** · 08-13-2012 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by elijahhenry10

There's just a bit of a difference though. Last year alone, about 52 Billion ounces of nickel were mined. In the history of man, only about 45 billion of ounces have been mined. There is a much larger supply of nickel than silver, and I mean a MUCH bigger one. Just my thoughts though.

You make great points. The weakness in the USA is that it does not mine any Nickel any more. It is dependent on foreign Nickel.

**desertgem** · 08-13-2012 12:44 AM

Wow, we better watch out for the massive inflation set to start next year. Actually if it does, It won't be due to any change in currency, it will be due to the changes in supply/demand ratio, and I don't mean any type of metals, but instead food and water supply world around. Look at crop reports, not just from the US, but from China, Russia, Mexico , etc. How much corn do they grow in Norway or Iceland? Even though the scenario may look bad for the US, it will still supply the majority of the supply, and the USD will not weaken as commodities are based in USD, but will strengthen even more so, compared to the basket. If you have sufficient money, don't buy metals of any kind now, but find some land that has a good well or water rights and buy it instead. IMO.