Thread: Large Cent Tip 8/2

Originally Posted by mark_h

It seems like here lately I have been seeing more misattributed coins in general. Not just large cents, but others as well. Ebay and on heritage.

I saw a 1970 S Lincoln on eBay a few months ago. NGC said it was a small date variety when it clearly was not.

Originally Posted by bsowa1029

I saw a 1970 S Lincoln on eBay a few months ago. NGC said it was a small date variety when it clearly was not.

I read the guarantee and found the "Mechanical Error" exemption to be so broad as to render any type or attribution guarantee meaningless. This makes me think the guarantee is only a good as the number of submissions the owner runs though their company. They start by saying OBVIOUS errors are exempt, but then go on to list examples of subtile differences for which a customer would want a guarantee of attribution as OBVIOUS and exempt errors.

It's like, If you can't tell the difference, it's guaranteed, but if you can, it's a mechanical error. Or like having a Life Insurance policy that requires the deceased to sign the claim.

The NGC guarantee specifically exempts attributions from the guarantee. PCGS specifically includes attributions but has the same mechanical error exclusion.

Originally Posted by Marshall

Another eBay sale from earlier this year.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1796-RARE-VARIETY-S-94-FINE-DETAILS-NOT-PRETTY-BUT-RARE-DRAPED-BUST-LARGE-CENT-/390416952372

How do you think they compare?

And yet another of this rare variety. They come in bunches and then disappear for years.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1796-S-94-VF-DETAILS-RARE-VARIETY-DRAPED-BUST-LARGE-CENT-/390454050543?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item5ae8d ffeef

And finally this on Heritage. A really nice collection is showing up at the Long Beach Auction. Since several provenances include the Phil Clover collection, perhaps it is his collection.

http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1174&lotNo=3100




Interesting side note. These are struck on Concavo-Convex blanks. The top three are concavo on the obverses and convex on the reverses. The bottom is convex on the obverse and concavo on the reverse.

A nice comparison, Marshall.

Like I said, I like yours (for the price you paid) a whole lot more than the other with the scratch. If you ever decide to let it go, let me know, pls.

As for me, I have developed an interest lately for the 1794's with head of 1793 after picking up an S-18b for a very modest price. My conclusion thus far: these are quite scarce coins, and seldom offered. Most varieties seem to be in low condition and often corroded. If you have any, please post them. I love looking at them since they are quite distinct.

Originally Posted by Eduard

A nice comparison, Marshall.

Like I said, I like yours (for the price you paid) a whole lot more than the other with the scratch. If you ever decide to let it go, let me know, pls.

As for me, I have developed an interest lately for the 1794's with head of 1793 after picking up an S-18b for a very modest price. My conclusion thus far: these are quite scarce coins, and seldom offered. Most varieties seem to be in low condition and often corroded. If you have any, please post them. I love looking at them since they are quite distinct.

This is true. 3 out of 4 times a "head of 93" is offered, it is a misattributed head of 94. I've never obtained one.

ps I've received the coin and it has been cleaned with a bit of pink still visible on a retoning coin. There are also scratch marks from this cleaning. After I decide whether or not to crack the holder and conserve it from the surface verdigris or have PCGS reholder it, I'll send it to Rick and it will be available.

I'll keep you informed.