indianhead

Has anyone heard about this. Apparently, the Fun Show in Florida wasnt so fun for some. Its reported that a Minnesota Dealers employee was loading up coins in his SUV when a "band of masked men" robbed him at knife point and took $4 million dollars worth of rare coins including a rare set of 1843 coins once owned by former President Tyler. This article is in the Ebay blog section. Heres the URL for it, Im not sure if It'll work but here it is.
http://blogs.ebay.com/timebuilder/en...tion-Heist/_WO.
Sounds like something back in the old west days.

samjimmy

Corrected link ...

http://blogs.ebay.com/timebuilder/en...0QQidZ96159012

indianhead

Thank you samjimmy.

samjimmy

I will say that to some degree, it's the only advantage of selling currency (each note has a serial number). Bottom line is that wherever there's money or valuable things like coins, diamonds, etc., their will be thieves that target those shows, conventions, stores, etc.

If, out of 1,700 dealers, only one was robbed, then that's a miracle IMHO. If no one that attended the show (don't have the figures, but I presume it's a large number) was robbed, then really it's utterly amazing.

Speedy

I've heard one person say that they think it was an inside job---I can't really say what I think because I have only read some of the reports...
I do think that robbing a person at knife point is kindof out-dated and it just doesn't happen often....

Speedy

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indianhead

You're absolutely right samjimmy. I'm sure there were thousands that attended that show and if there's a place thats targeted by thieves it would certainly be a major coin show like the FUN show where there are literally milloins of dollars worth of rare coins and currency. Its still a shame though because alot of these dealers travel from all over the country and beyond to sell at these shows and end up being robbed. Even if it is only one dealer out of who knows how many, where was security at when these people were packing up to leave. There should have been some kind of security there. I was at a show recently that only had 30 tables and they had an armed guard at the door the entire day.

zaneman

Here is a partial list of what was stolen:
1843 Proof Set - All coins PCGS certified:
Date/Mint Denomination Grade Description Certification #
1843 1/2 Cent PCGS PR 62 BN Original
1843 1 Cent PCGS PR 64 BN
1843 1/2 Dime PCGS PR 63
1843 Dime PCGS PR 63
1843 25c PCGS PR 63
1843 50c PCGS PR 63
1843 $1 PCGS PR 63
1843 $21/2 Gold PCGS PR 63CAM
1843 $5 Gold PCGS PR 63CAM
1843 $10 Gold PCGS PR 63
These coins are pedigreed by PCGS on the Holder with: "Pres. Tyler Presentation Set"


Date/Mint Denomination Grade Description Certification #
1795 FH $1 Two Leaves PCGS 64(PQ) Med. Tone, Original with great strike
1798 Large Eagle $1 PCGS 64(PQ) Blast White; Ex-Garrett (not on PCGS holder)
1795 FH 50c PCGS 64 Beautiful blue s, golds, and russets
1885-S 10c PCGS 65 Medium gold toning
1918/7-D 5c PCGS 64 Ex. Bill Fivaz
1836 Gobrecht Orig $1 PCGS PR 62 Pretty toning, Ex. Troy Weisman on holder1867
1842 $1 PCGS 64(PQ) Light tone
1845 $1 PCGS 62 Light tone with some brown color
1928 50c PCGS 65 Great strike and White
1924-S 5c PCGS 64(PQ) Very pretty light tone - great strike
1918/17-D 5c PCGS 58(PQ) Great strike with fresh luster
1925-S Peace $1 PCGS 65 Light original tone
1896 1c PCGS PR 66RED
1862 $1 PCGS 63(PQ) Lightly toned at rims
1803/2 $5 PCGS 58(PQ) Great strike and really fresh
1845 $1 NGC PR 58 Mostly white
1849 $1 NGC PR 60 Mostly white
1866 W/M $1 PCGS PR 65DCAM Blast white with great contrast
1918 50c PCGS 65(PQ) Blast White
1880 25c NGC 67 Old Holder, pretty toning
1928 $20 PCGS 66 Being tried for "67's"
1928 $20 PCGS 66 Being tried for "67's"
1923-D $20 PCGS 66 Being tried for "67's"
1924 $20 PCGS 66 Being tried for "67's"
1927 $20 PCGS 66 Being tried for "67's"
1867-S 10c NGC 62 Light tone and really clean
1799/8 $1 NGC 55 Original Med/Dark tone
1852-O $20 NGC 55(PQ)
1853-O $20 NGC 53(PQ) Came out of a PCGS 55 holder
1877-S $10 NGC 55(PQ)
1844-C 2 1/2 NGC 58(PQ) Graded it "61" in FUN Stack's sale
1913 $20 PCGS 64(PQ) No Marks
1910-D $10 PCGS 64(PQ) No Marks
1908-S 1c PCGS 65RED(PQ) Blazing red
1900-S 10c PCGS 66(PQ) Pretty original color.
1881-O $10 NGC 53
1908 $5 Indian PCGS 64 Just graded
1830 50c PCGS 63 Medium tone, just purchased at FUN
1842-O $5 PCGS 45(PQ)
1862-S $20 NGC 58
1902-S 25c NGC 65 Lite tone
1905-O 25c PCGS 66 Medium tone w/great luster
1857-O $5 PCGS 45(PQ)
1892 25c PCGS 64(PQ)
1899 25c PCGS 64(PQ)
1821 25c NGC 58 Medium to dark original tone
1878 50c NGC 65 Fresh and mostly white
1902 2 1/2 PCGS PR 62CAM Just purchased at FUN
1932 $10 PCGS 64
1932 $10 PCGS 64
1932 $10 PCGS 64
1909-S VDB 1c PCGS 64RED some spots
1908-S 1c PCGS 64RED(PQ)
1889 G$1 PCGS 67(PQ)
1880 $5 NGC 64
1912 2 1/2 PCGS 63
1929 2 1/2 PCGS 64
1928-S 1c PCGS 64RED
1913-D $20 PCGS 64(PQ)
1932 $10 PCGS 64
1932 $10 PCGS 64
1859 1c PCGS 65CAM(PQ)
1896 $1 PCGS 66PL
1923 25c PCGS 66
1929 25c PCGS 66
1855 1/2C PCGS 64RED
1853-O G$1 PCGS 64(PQ)
1926 $2 1/ PCGS 64
1855 2 1/2 PCGS 63 (was NGC 63)
1878-S $5 PCGS 62(PQ)
1922 $20 PCGS 64(PQ)
1832 1/2 Dime PCGS 66
1858 1/2 Dime PCGS 67
1847 $10 NGC 61
1912-S $5 PCGS 61
1933-S 50c PCGS 66 10908886
1934 50c PCGS 66 10908887
1934-D 50c PCGS 66 10908888
1934-S 50c PCGS 66 10908889
1935 50c PCGS 66 10908890
1935-D 50c PCGS 66 10908891
1935-S 50c PCGS 66 10908892
1936 50c PCGS 66 10908893
1936-D 50c PCGS 66 10908894
1936-S 50c PCGS 66 10908895
1937 50c PCGS 66 10908896
1937-D 50c PCGS 66 10908897
1937-S 50c PCGS 66 10908898
1938 50c PCGS 66 10908899
1938-D 50c PCGS 66 10908900
1939 50c PCGS 66 10908901
1939-D 50c PCGS 66 10908902
1939-S 50c PCGS 66 10908903
1940 50c PCGS 66 10908904
1940-S 50c PCGS 66 10908905
1887 $1 NGC PR 66CAM
1907 1c PCGS 66RED
1909 Lincoln 1c PCGS 66RED
1797 1/2D 13 Stars PCGS 06
1907 10c NGC PR 66
1825 25c NGC 62
1915 25c NGC PR 66
1916-D 25c PCGS 66
1807 DB 50c NGC 62
1831 50c PCGS 65
1879 50c NGC 67
1936 50c NGC PR 66
1879-CC/cc $1 NGC 63
1887/6-O $1 ANACS 64
1890-CC $1 PCGS 64
1894-S $1 PCGS 64
1857 $3 NGC 63
1869 J-751 25c NGC PR 66
1900 Lafayette $1 PCGS 64

indianhead

WOW!!!! Partial? I'd become ill if I saw the whole thing.

Treashunt

I saw that in Coin World, it must have been his whole inventory.

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09S-V.D.B

Ouch! I hope the guy has more than just a few serial numbers for a bunch of cheap (compared to the rest of inventory) Walking Liberty halves. Secondly, how much does it cost to hire an off-duty police officer or two for a few hours? $200? That would have saved the guy a lot of trouble.

samjimmy

Well, they are mostly slabs so they have numbers, though I'm guessing they will break out a good many of them (if they're smart). If so, those pedigreed coin won't be pedigreed anymore.
est. 15 minted. Not every day that a "Pres. Tyler Presentation Set" (if still slabbed) or even a non-slabbed one shows up. Sometimes it's better to steal things that aren't... so rare.

Mikjo0

Didn't this same type of thing happen 2-3 years ago at the F.U.N show?

samjimmy

It happened last year I believe, but it wasn't as much and different circumstances (cars being broken into while dealers ate lunch on their way home).

Speedy

Or he could have gotten a CWL for cheaper than that more than likely---when I go to shows I don't carry a bag or such, as I think if you go out of a show carrying a bag you are more of a target---I don't know if its my face or what but most people just don't fool around with me

Speedy

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RickieB

Now if you had 4 million in coins dont you think you could afford an armed guard?? That to me that is stupidity 101
Sorry folks..call em like I see em...

RickieB

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