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    75 Lincoln cent brokerage or die adjustment error?

    The oversee is in good condition and no evidence of marks on the collar either. Is it a brokerage or die adjustment error or just pmd?
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    The lack of a rim on the reverse indicates that it is PMD.
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    there is a possibility that this coin may have been struck with a late stage capped die on the reverse side. there appears to be a thin part of the rim still there along the edge of the reverse side and this is a good indication that the coin may have not been tinkered with by someone.weigh your coin and if it weighs 3 grams then you probably have a good coin and if it weighs less than that then it has been ground off by someone.

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    Post mint damage.
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    By the way, the term is "brockage". Brokerages are where they steal your money legally.

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    Sorry Rascal. This one is the proverbial "no brainer". There is NO chance this coin is anything other than PMD.
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    Sell it to rascal for 12.00. Then he can start a few threads on here about it. You make money and rascal can be happy for a time. Win-Win.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostDutchman Click here to enlarge
    Sorry Rascal. This one is the proverbial "no brainer". There is NO chance this coin is anything other than PMD.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostDutchman Click here to enlarge
    Sorry Rascal. This one is the proverbial "no brainer". There is NO chance this coin is anything other than PMD.
    We should never say NO chance until something is looked at in hand by someone that knows error coins. Remember how many of you that said this about the coin I'm adding a photo of in this post and some of you are still trying to down me because of this coin. I had one of the oldest and very best variety coin guys out there examine this coin. Here is the very words he said about this coin.

    [ As for the 1978 cent, it looks to me like it was struck through a late stage
    capped die where the cap was moving out of the centered position. I'd agree
    that it is a mint error. ]

    I should have been able to identify this coin by my self but I just never thought about it being struck thru a loose die cap. the die cap was even overlapping part of the rim of this coin and got in between the collar and the planchet for about half way down on the outside rim of the coin. Maybe we all can learn things even if we are getting up there towards old age , hopefully the younger folks can learn and enjoy this great error and variety collecting hobby.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rascal Click here to enlarge
    We should never say NO chance until something is looked at in hand by someone that knows error coins. Remember how many of you that said this about the coin I'm adding a photo of in this post and some of you are still trying to down me because of this coin. I had one of the oldest and very best variety coin guys out there examine this coin. Here is the very words he said about this coin.

    [ As for the 1978 cent, it looks to me like it was struck through a late stage
    capped die where the cap was moving out of the centered position. I'd agree
    that it is a mint error. ]

    I should have been able to identify this coin by my self but I just never thought about it being struck thru a loose die cap. the die cap was even overlapping part of the rim of this coin and got in between the collar and the planchet for about half way down on the outside rim of the coin. Maybe we all can learn things even if we are getting up there towards old age , hopefully the younger folks can learn and enjoy this great error and variety collecting hobby.

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    ....and it still isn't certified!Click here to enlarge

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    As others have indicated, the coin at the top of this thread shows post-strike damage. Rascal's coin was vandalized as well.
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    I gotta agree with mike. That coin was gripped by a gorilla with a pair of pliers. On high magnification you can see that the outer ridge is deep and sharp, the next one in is shallower and less sharp and the third one shallower yet and correspondingly fuzzier, but the *angle* and *width* of the ridges remains constant. Additionally, the lines formed by the ridges are straight and perfectly perpendicular.

    This says that something to the upper left of the coin (as oriented in the picture) applied leveraged pressure. I can't imagine any situation where a die cap could do that. Sorry, rascal.
    Last edited by WriterIN; 04-07-2012 at 04:26 PM.

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    you are entitled to your own beliefs , nothing wrong with that
    Last edited by rascal; 04-07-2012 at 11:48 PM.

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