Thread: Fake...cleaned..or what?

Something just doesn't sit right with me on this one.
Anyone care to weigh in?
Not to mention that a MS-64+ should have sold for...what? 2 grand..at least.



http://www.ebay.com/itm/360439749940?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p398 4.m1438.l2649#ht_1211wt_1167

Dipped i'd say.

And when you say dipped.. is that in an over the counter liquid tarnish remover?
Like Wrights or Tarn-X?

Sort of. THere are coin specific products like Speeddip and Jeweluster. Dipping dulls the luster on a coin, at least if it is dipped too long or multiple times.

Yeah my first impression is that it's been dipped too many times.

Hello NG4

Grey sheet bid for MS60 is $410. MS63 is $490 and MS64 is $700. There is no telling from the photos what the grade truly is or whether a TPG would grade it. The seller offers 14 day return and his feedback rating is good. If you wanted a bright white quarter, it might have been a good one for you or it could have gone right back to the seller (if harshly cleaned).

I personally much prefer the Columbian half you posted with the peripheral toning.

BTW, tell all your friends that they should NEVER use strong silver cleaners like TarnX on a coin. The dip mentioned in this thread would be something like Jewel Luster or e*Z*est. There are plenty of threads here at CT that describe dipping coins. I remember a good thread that LostDutchman posted showing a coin photo before & after a 50% diluted dip for a short time with proper rinse. It was an example of a good dip procedure. A long dip can really dull and damage a coin's luster. IMO the coin in the Ebay auction may have been dipped many times or for too long. At least that is the look it has in the photos.

What sticks out to me is the lack of luster (over dipped)and the finned rim

Definitely dipped. The surface looks almost too perfect.

Originally Posted by icerain

Definitely dipped. The surface looks almost too perfect.

Right.. that's what got me too.

Originally Posted by Collect89

Hello NG4

Grey sheet bid for MS60 is $410. MS63 is $490 and MS64 is $700. There is no telling from the photos what the grade truly is or whether a TPG would grade it. The seller offers 14 day return and his feedback rating is good. If you wanted a bright white quarter, it might have been a good one for you or it could have gone right back to the seller (if harshly cleaned).

I personally much prefer the Columbian half you posted with the peripheral toning.

BTW, tell all your friends that they should NEVER use strong silver cleaners like TarnX on a coin. The dip mentioned in this thread would be something like Jewel Luster or e*Z*est. There are plenty of threads here at CT that describe dipping coins. I remember a good thread that LostDutchman posted showing a coin photo before & after a 50% diluted dip for a short time with proper rinse. It was an example of a good dip procedure. A long dip can really dull and damage a coin's luster. IMO the coin in the Ebay auction may have been dipped many times or for too long. At least that is the look it has in the photos.

I have several Columbians and would like the female half to go with it for a possible framed piece.

Are you saying a proper dip is ok? I saw some products like those you mentioned in addition to one called MS-70.
I would be very reluctant to use it... but would entertain the idea of buying some just to try out on junk coins and pocket change. I don't want to waste the money if it's never going to be anything but destructive to a collectable coin though.

First, look at the bright white silver color and think about how silver will look when its only 1 year old, let alone well over 100. Second, look at luster in the fields and its refelctiveness. Add 2 plus 2 and come to your own conclusion.

Yes, that's pretty much what I was thinking.. how can a 100+ year old coin look this gggod. But then i thought that maybe some actually do... which lead me to ask the question in here.
Am I to assume then that no coin of this date would ever look this good?

Originally Posted by NG4

Yes, that's pretty much what I was thinking.. how can a 100+ year old coin look this gggod. But then i thought that maybe some actually do... which lead me to ask the question in here.
Am I to assume then that no coin of this date would ever look this good?

I am not sure about NEVER, but I have never seen a silver coin even 40 years old look that bright.

When I first started collecting, I bought a similar commem from this seller. Cleanest coin I ever saw! Every bit of the surface was scratched clean.

I see this seller all the time, check his items for sale, filter to "completed items" and the commemorative, early category. All the coins are completely clean, no toning. Sometimes he uses the same photo for the coins not the actual one for sale. His feedback seems good but I have not bought from him and have no personal history. I generally check sellers history in that category before purchasing. Besides you can get a slabbed MS62 for the same price, guaranteed not cleaned.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1893-25C-Isa...#ht_500wt_1357