Thread: Coin Show Security

Originally Posted by JCB1983

I didn't really know how to phrase this question, but it is targeted more towards dealers. How would I go about advertising my services for Coin Show Security correctly? I happen to live in Southern Maryland and will be at the Baltimore Expo for atleast 2 days. I am not of deep pockets and could use some extra money for the show. Here is my background. I have no record, have an honorable discharge from the Army (Served in both Iraq and Afghanistan), and have a security clearance from the ATF/Department of Justice from a previous security job. How should I advertise my services, and how much should I charge? I have heard of other members on this forum working security in the past, and imagine it more as loss prevention+transportation. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

~Jason

Hello Jason,
The high end dealers may hire off duty police. They pay the local police department & the police department pays their police officer. He is actually on duty in this case but the officer is probably working overtime. It is rare to see uniformed police on the floor like this but they are present at some shows. Many shows have their own security personnel on the floor in plain clothes. I know one guy that works security at Westchester NY and he is also a paper money collector. I've also seen flashlight cops (that might be worthless in a serious situation) guarding doors . My only advice might be for you to contact the show organizer & ask them specifically what you might do to become involved with the specific show.

Wouldn't someone taking work like this need to be bonded or otherwise insured?

Originally Posted by -jeffB

Wouldn't someone taking work like this need to be bonded or otherwise insured?

That would make sense if Jason is going to make it his business.

I think that the first step would be to contact the show organizer & see what they have in place.

Not sure if I can help but I can tell you from my previous jobs at a jewelry company.

All of our security were former cops. They must also have a security license and of course have a clean record. We had a few guards that walked around with a gun in the building at all times. And none of them had to wear uniforms or anything that said security or guard on their shirt.

Funny thing is one of the security guards is a coin collector. Too bad I lost touch with him after I left.

one thing no one mentioned (althogh I may have missed it), is that you need a Security Guard License in Maryland.

http://security-license.com/licensin...g-requirements

At the ANA last year in Chicago the had Chicago's "finest" walking around in full uniform, but I would bet there were more plain clothes walking the floor than uniformed. At our local show's they hire the County sheriffs dept. as security both uniformed and plain clothes.

Originally Posted by JCB1983

Actually yes you should say more. How about "I'm sorry" for making such a rude comment.

Sorry for not buying into your fantasy of being a coin show rent-a-cop?

Originally Posted by JCB1983

Forgive me for being naive and inquiring about possible work at the upcomming Baltimore Expo. I forgot there are no more honest honorable people left on this planet and that inquiring about such a question would invoke accusations of criminalism.

Yes, Jason, there are no honorable people left. Just you. There now, feel better?

Originally Posted by JCB1983

Just for the record my name is Jason Becker, I work at Southern Maryland Pawn Brokers in Waldorf M.D. and either one of my bosses (both retired D.C. police officers) can vouch for me, as well as the hundreds of other men who served with me in the 82nd Airborne. If you are not aware I have documented many pictures on this site, not to mention have almost twice as much posts are you do.

I have yet to see a post from you that actually sheds light on any numismatic subject.
Mostly you seek advice on what job you should take and other off-topic subjects or else complain when the rest of the world won't conform to your needs and expectations.

Originally Posted by Numismat

Lol, it's not that serious man.

If you felt I was being rude, oh well. I was making an honest statement about how what you are inquiring about would be viewed by coin dealers.

Before you get too reptured, I will bet a dollar (Morgan if you want) to a donut that he is talking about Geezer. I thought your post was humorous, while Geezer's was somewhat ill spirited. Perhaps the OP will clarify.

Dang missed it by minutes with Geezer standing up to be recognized.

Originally Posted by Hunt1

Allowed to arrest people and put them in their patrol car off duty?

(off topic; is the new episode of coin show coming out tommorow)

Just because a law enforcement officer is off duty, that doesn't mean they stop being a cop.

Their duty is 24/7.

Originally Posted by Kentucky

Before you get too reptured, I will bet a dollar (Morgan if you want) to a donut that he is talking about Geezer. I thought your post was humorous, while Geezer's was somewhat ill spirited. Perhaps the OP will clarify.

Dang missed it by minutes with Geezer standing up to be recognized.

Not I, says I.
From the context of his message, I believe Jason was referring to Numismat.
Jason seems to think this forum is a version of Dear Abby or an employment advice column.

Originally Posted by TheCoinGeezer

Not I, says I.
From the context of his message, I believe Jason was referring to Numismat.
Jason seems to think this forum is a version of Dear Abby or an employment advice column.

Now that I look more closely, I must admit you are right. Where would you like me to send the Morgan (darn I was looking forward to that donut). Now I will sit back down in my corner and shut up.

I think that the OP is far from a "flashlight/rent a cop". He was in the Army, and those comments pretty much fly up disrespect to him. Not saying he is more qualified than a cop, but jesus-- he's not your average fresh out of high school, useless rent a cop. Are off-duty cops probably more qualified for security than the OP? Probably. But on the same token, they have more abilities to deal with situations, the OP just asked for an opinion, not a lecture on how qualified LEO's dominate the security industry. .02.

Originally Posted by TheCoinGeezer

I have yet to see a post from you that actually sheds light on any numismatic subject.
Mostly you seek advice on what job you should take and other off-topic subjects or else complain when the rest of the world won't conform to your needs and expectations.

I know, right? Some people just don't seem to understand that this is actually, first and foremost, a forum for correcting other people's manners.

Originally Posted by Hunt1

I think that the OP is far from a "flashlight/rent a cop". He was in the Army, and those comments pretty much fly up disrespect to him. Not saying he is more qualified than a cop, but jesus-- he's not your average fresh out of high school, useless rent a cop. Are off-duty cops probably more qualified for security than the OP? Probably. But on the same token, they have more abilities to deal with situations, the OP just asked for an opinion, not a lecture on how qualified LEO's dominate the security industry. .02.

JCB has zero credibility with me.
Who knows what he did in the Army, or if he even was in the Army?
He could have worked in the kitchen for all you know.
I hear tell the Army makes men...

Guy's, i dont want to sound to medly, but wouldnt it be nice to go and take a chill-pill.