Thread: Ike Dollar Grade Opinion???

I bought this ike dollar and it came today, It is PCGS graded you guys give me your opinion on the grade and then i will reveal it.

Better pics in better light....

Looks like wear on his ear, I couldn't go MS quality and be surprised if it is. Also, the second pics aren't any better, you have a strange angle and parts of the coin is cut off.

Well, since most Ikes from mint sets look like they went through a cheese grader, I will say this was graded MS. I will go with MS 64.

Originally Posted by gbroke

Well, since most Ikes from mint sets look like they went through a cheese grader, I will say this was graded MS. I will go with MS 64.

Good point. Isn't that cheese grater and not grader..

PCGS graded it ms65 but it shows wear on the reverse particularly on the lettering on the reverse??? should i send it back and try and get a refund???

Originally Posted by coinguy-matthew

PCGS graded it ms65 but it shows wear on the reverse particularly on the lettering on the reverse??? should i send it back and try and get a refund???

Seems like they were very generous in their grading. Why would you want to send it back? That doesn't look like wear to me. Just a weak struck or well-used die.

Originally Posted by rodeoclown

Good point. Isn't that cheese grater and not grader..

Lmao. Maybe it's cheese greater.

Originally Posted by gbroke

Well, since most Ikes from mint sets look like they went through a cheese grader, I will say this was graded MS. I will go with MS 64.

1971 IKEs were never issued in US Mint Sets or Proof Sets. The OP's coins originated from a bag and then possibly a roll.

Looking at the reverse on the second set of pictures leads me to believe AU58 since the breast exhibits luster broken wear.

The Ear and the Breast can both suffer from a weak strike, which is also a possibility for the OP's coin given the rim next to the motto on the obverse.

Originally Posted by 19Lyds

The Ear and the Breast can both suffer from a weak strike, which is also a possibility for the OP's coin given the rim next to the motto on the obverse.

The breast yes but from the pics, it just looks like some extra rubbing of some type occurred on the ear, not just weak strike. Could be the picture though giving that impression.

I think it is just a weak strike and I'm going to guess it was graded MS64-65 based on other ikes I have seen. I would grade it 62-63 personally. Better pictures would help.

Originally Posted by gbroke

Well, since most Ikes from mint sets look like they went through a cheese grader, I will say this was graded MS. I will go with MS 64.

Ikes weren't in mint sets until 1973.
I peeked ahead and saw that the OP says PCGS graded it a 65.
The coin looks circulated to me and is poorly struck to boot.
Nothing PCGS does surprises me any more.
How they stay in business with a piece of excrement like Don Willis at the helm is a mystery to me.

Originally Posted by TheCoinGeezer

Ikes weren't in mint sets until 1973.
I peeked ahead and saw that the OP says PCGS graded it a 65.
The coin looks circulated to me and is poorly struck to boot.
Nothing PCGS does surprises me any more.
How they stay in business with a piece of excrement like Don Willis at the helm is a mystery to me.

Originally Posted by TheCoinGeezer

Ikes weren't in mint sets until 1973.
I peeked ahead and saw that the OP says PCGS graded it a 65.
The coin looks circulated to me and is poorly struck to boot.
Nothing PCGS does surprises me any more.
How they stay in business with a piece of excrement like Don Willis at the helm is a mystery to me.

AU? You obviously have no idea whatsoever how the TPGs grade Ikes.

NGC would grade it the same way, and PCGS standards haven't changed since well before Mr. Willis took the helm.

Put that in your sour pipe and smoke it.

Originally Posted by TheCoinGeezer

Ikes weren't in mint sets until 1973.

I don't think gbroke was saying this one was from an uncirculated set, I think he was just talking in general, even the uncirculated ones from mint sets are usually in horrible condition. The mint gave the Ike literally zero love in the mint making process.