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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BooksB4Coins Click here to enlarge
    May I ask how many 16-D Mercs you've handled? My guess is that in your infinite experience and wisdom the answer is a whopping ZERO.

    As for the coin in question and taking the rough images into consideration, the best I can say is that it does not look "right". My gut says no. Proper images are necessary.
    May I ask how many friends you have? My guess is that in your infinite friendliness and consideration, the answer is a whopping ZERO.

    Why would you insult pumpkinpie's comment, and then say the EXACT same thing?

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    Tell us more please.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mcreagin Click here to enlarge
    Here is a previous CT thread where the details of the 1916-D mintmark placement are described. Where did you get the coin? If you have it in hand, you can see if your coin matches either of the four known mintmark positions described. Please provide close-up photos of the mintmark & tell us more.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by pumpkinpie Click here to enlarge
    No. something just doesn't seem right.
    That is a key diagnostic to detecting a fake (When you see a coin that just doesn't look right).
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mcreagin Click here to enlarge
    It seems to me that the front is more worn than the back. Two dimes in one?
    Now after reading your other post(s) in this thread it is apparent that you do not have the coin to inspect it. I would not buy a raw 1916-D without it being slabbed by a major TPG or personally inspecting it in-hand.

    IMO it would be foolish to buy the coin solely based upon the photos posted.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BooksB4Coins Click here to enlarge
    May I ask how many 16-D Mercs you've handled? My guess is that in your infinite experience and wisdom the answer is a whopping ZERO.

    As for the coin in question and taking the rough images into consideration, the best I can say is that it does not look "right". My gut says no. Proper images are necessary.

    Books,

    I am not getting you. On this thread 1889 CC Morgan dollar you school me and others on how you can't make a call on photos and then you do the exact same. What is even more confusing is, I based my conclusion in the other thread on hard facts, yours was just a feeling that "it does not look right" What even makes it worse, is you are getting in Pumpkin's face for doing the exact same thing you just did.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BooksB4Coins Click here to enlarge
    May I ask how many 16-D Mercs you've handled? My guess is that in your infinite experience and wisdom the answer is a whopping ZERO....
    Whereas you, of course, have handled thousands of 16D's and can tell at the merest glance that the coin in question doesn't look "right".
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BooksB4Coins Click here to enlarge
    May I ask how many 16-D Mercs you've handled? My guess is that in your infinite experience and wisdom the answer is a whopping ZERO.

    As for the coin in question and taking the rough images into consideration, the best I can say is that it does not look "right". My gut says no. Proper images are necessary.
    My impression of CT is that this is a place to learn from other's expertise not to shoot darts at each other. I believe it is O.K. to critique somebody's coin but to insult a person whom you don't know from Adam is uncalled for. There are people of all experience levels here and everyone is entitled to their own opinion and whether perceived as right or wrong is up to each of us. If this is an attempt at light sarcasam, you have failed. Perhaps you should pick up a book on human interaction perhaps titled BooksB4Insults.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BooksB4Coins Click here to enlarge
    May I ask how many 16-D Mercs you've handled? My guess is that in your infinite experience and wisdom the answer is a whopping ZERO.
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    there's almost no chance i would buy an unslabbed 1916-d (and this is coming from someone who basically only has unslabbed coins). my usual dealer has about 15 to 20 fake 16-ds that people have brought in thinking they were real. he has about 3 authentic ones. i've heard that counterfeit 1916-ds basically outnumber real ones by at least 10 or 15 to one. it is basically the most counterfeited coin ever.

    no way would i buy it based on those photos alone, and probably not even if they had a 50 or 100x picture.

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    I say it is a fake. The front looks more worn than the reverse

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    Is it not safe to assume that if not in this case, most others the OPs are seeking proper information? PumpkinPie has shown his experience and even in the most basic sense should not state opinion as fact. Who of you do not believe he was giving an intelligent and experienced opinion? How many of you would place your money on a coins authenticity on the word of PumpkinPie? There is nothing wrong with the kid learning, its commendable. The difference between his post and mine is that I clearly stated that proper images are needed to give anymore than an off the cuff remark. I also would not have thrown my two cents in without knowing I could back up my comment.

    MikeM2000,

    I do not mean to bust on you either. I simply stated that if you are willing to make the call on an 1889-CC Morgans authenticity using only small blurry images, you are a "gambler to say the least". Is this not true? I was quite impressed that someone took the time to do as you did on this one and my comment was nothing personal. Hypothetically, would you have bought that coin as a 1889-CC using only the photos to authenticate? If so it would be a very risky move (AKA: gamble). Nothing more nothing less.

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    I can honestly say I have no clue. It does look almost authentic from the D shown, but my question is would it be worth it to you if you send it to a TPG for grading and authentication? I would say definitely yes.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by gbroke Click here to enlarge
    May I ask how many friends you have? My guess is that in your infinite friendliness and consideration, the answer is a whopping ZERO.

    Why would you insult pumpkinpie's comment, and then say the EXACT same thing?

    Mr. GBroke,

    May I ask how many you have? Real friends, ya know... warm people and not a computer screen? Is it really that terrible to call a kid out on his BS? You know as well as I he has never seen this coin in person and was only trying to sound as if he knew better. What if the OP was to take this kids advice? What if he said it was real and the guy his word and lost his butt on it? Obviously you are more interested in making snide little comments than trying to use any experience you may have to help another person. Did you get a good chuckle out of this one? Where is your thoughts on the authenticity of the OPs coin, sir? Maybe you should go out and get yourself a girlfriend. Then you would not have so much free time on your hands. Is that what is on your hands?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BooksB4Coins Click here to enlarge
    Mr. GBroke,

    May I ask how many you have? Real friends, ya know... warm people and not a computer screen? Is it really that terrible to call a kid out on his BS? You know as well as I he has never seen this coin in person and was only trying to sound as if he knew better. What if the OP was to take this kids advice? What if he said it was real and the guy his word and lost his butt on it? Obviously you are more interested in making snide little comments than trying to use any experience you may have to help another person. Did you get a good chuckle out of this one? Where is your thoughts on the authenticity of the OPs coin, sir? Maybe you should go out and get yourself a girlfriend. Then you would not have so much free time on your hands. Is that what is on your hands?
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