this site explains the writing & the date - i can read some japanese & chinese but dont know enough about the coins to tell you if this is legit.
if I did my math right that is 1904, year 37 of the meiji era. the reverse should be rotated 90 degrees clockwise - the crysanthemum (sp?) flower should go at the top and the characters below are 1 and then yen. I am sure those who know more about the actual coin will let you know more
If it's real, it would be indeed a 1904.
On edit: I'm 95% sure your coin is fake. The Chinese/Kanji characters don't look right (not sharp and defined enough), and neither do the Western numerals. The Roman alphabet lettering also seems to be too thick.
Last edited by Collector1966; 05-18-2011 at 02:17 AM.
Here's a real silver One Yen coin for comparison (1895)
To me, the Roman alphabet lettering in your coin looks wrong (letters seem to be too thick and dull), and details appear to be mushy. Also, is the golden tone of your coin the real color, or is it the effect of the lighting?
another thing to do is a magnet test. if it sticks to a magnet, it's fake.
...and this one belongs to the reds!
Here's another silver One Yen coin for comparison (1912)
Welcome to the forum.
It is better to start a new thread for a question than to resurrect an old one, but since you're here, let's talk about your coin.
It is indeed dated Meiji 13, which does translate to 1880.
The coin appears to be Y#A25.2 in the Standard Catalog of World Coins, which as stated on the coin itself is .900 silver. Mintage in 1880 was 5,247,432.
The Japanese Numismatic Dealers Association catalog is the most accurate source I know of for valuation, and in the 2012 Edition it is listed at 15,000-160,000 yen (~$186-1,985). In U.S. grading terms, it probably has a touch too much rub for AU, so I would call it an XF. US values are slightly lower than Japanese values, so I would value your coin at $900+/-, if it is genuine.
The details look pretty good, but I am a little concerned about the grainy appearance of the field, especially around the chrysanthemum at the top of the reverse. That could indicate a casting, which would mean it originated in a counterfeiter's lair, not the Japan Mint in Osaka where it should have. Considering that the volume of Chinese fakes of your coin greatly exceeds the volume of genuine examples, it would be a good idea to precisely weigh and measure it, and give it the magnet test. It should weigh 26.96g, have a diameter of exactly 38.6mm, and be non-magnetic.
For Meiji era yen, measurement of the diameter is critical, since there were three slightly different diameters through the 40+ year life of the basic design, and the counterfeiters are not too picky about such details.
Last edited by hontonai; 11-02-2012 at 12:19 PM.
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thank you for repliying...It did pass the magnet test unfortunetly if I messured it right the diameter was 38.1mm and I'm not certain of my scale but it weighed 23.0g....so if the coin is a fake would there still be any value at all being that it is old? I'm bummed out