Thread: Two New Denarii

I am really happy I was able to win both of these.


First one:








JULIA DOMNA, wife of Septimius Severus.
AR Denarius Struck 196-211 AD.
Laodicea ad Mare mint.
Obverse: IVLIA AVGVSTA, draped bust right
Reverse: SAECVLI FE-LICITAS, Isis standing right, left foot on prow, holding Horus; rudder behind.
RIC IV 645 (Severus); BMCRE 618 (Severus); RSC 174

For those of you who don't know what's going on with the reverse type, Horus was the main god of the Ancient Egyptians, Isis was the mother (and Osiris, the father). I have been very interested in Ancient Egyptian mythology long before I even collected coins. Needless to say, when I discovered this coin, I immediatly desired one. I just had to wait for the right time (and a price I could pay).


And, if that wasn't enough...it's not even the best of the two...

The MOJO, my new all time favorite coin design:









L. Cossutius C.f. Sabula. Ca. 74 BC.
AR denarius, Rome
Obverse: Winged head of Medusa left, SABVLA behind
Reverse: Bellerophon on Pegasus rearing right,hurling spear, L COSSVTI C F below, control numeral above
Crawford 395/1. Sydenham 790. RSC Cossutia 1. RCTV 331.
Very scarce.


For those of you that don't know, I simply love Medusa coinage. This coin depicts a winged head Medusa bust portrait. Pegasus on the reverse isn't too bad either .


stainless

Stainless I am in awe of the Roman Republic Medussa/Pegasus. WOW !!!

Ive seen that domna reverse before, its very nice. Nice portrait on that too. Looks like a eastern mint due to the description?

Cool republican. Those banker marks on the obverse?

Makes me want to get mine even sooner but its gotta wait, lol.

Originally Posted by Ripley

Stainless I am in awe of the Roman Republic Medussa/Pegasus. WOW !!!

Totally agree!

Originally Posted by mat

Ive seen that domna reverse before, its very nice. Nice portrait on that too. Looks like a eastern mint due to the description?

Cool republican. Those banker marks on the obverse?

Makes me want to get mine even sooner but its gotta wait, lol.

Honestly Mat, I think it may be a fouree (see the spot by Isis's booty?). But if it is, I don't care much as it's a great example of one. I'm into imitations and contemporary counterfeits anyways, lol. The reverse depiction is what matters to me.

And ya, I'm pretty sure their just bankersd marks.

stainless

Originally Posted by stainless

Honestly Mat, I think it may be a fouree (see the spot by Isis's booty?). But if it is, I don't care much as it's a great example of one. I'm into imitations and contemporary counterfeits anyways, lol. The reverse depiction is what matters to me.

stainless

Didnt even think of it being a fouree, figured it was a deposit/encrustation.

One thing I dont own is a fouree, as with some others, eventually....

Originally Posted by mat

Didnt even think of it being a fouree, figured it was a deposit/encrustation.

One thing I dont own is a fouree, as with some others, eventually....

It could just be that. Won't know until I have it under a loupe. I'll post the results then.

Either way, this made my night

stainless

What is a "Fouree?"

Originally Posted by Ripley

What is a "Fouree?"

A fouree is a contemporary counterfeit coin that is just plated in silver. One from the official mint would have been silver all the way through.

stainless

Originally Posted by Ripley

What is a "Fouree?"

An ancient counterfeit plated in silver.

Some are more collectable then the actual coin it copies themselves.

Ahhhhhh
Gawd, one more thing to worry about. thanks guys for the info.

Sweet stuff Stainless!

Originally Posted by Ripley

What is a "Fouree?"

Heres one with most of the silver gone

Edit: wonder if the previous owner cleaned it to harshly

Originally Posted by Ripley

What is a "Fouree?"

More than you want to know:
http://dougsmith.ancients.info/fourree.html

Randy, I see ancient fourree cores all of the time. I don't think the previous owner did that, time in the ground did that. Btw the most common cores are copper, since they were trying to imitate silver. I have a lead one that has traces of gold, so it appears lead cores were used, (at least to some extent), to try to imitate gold coins. Mine is of a gold type, but poorly done.

Originally Posted by medoraman

Randy, I see ancient fourree cores all of the time. I don't think the previous owner did that, time in the ground did that. Btw the most common cores are copper, since they were trying to imitate silver. I have a lead one that has traces of gold, so it appears lead cores were used, (at least to some extent), to try to imitate gold coins. Mine is of a gold type, but poorly done.

Yes occasionally lead was used. I've seen examples of this for denarii also. I know that it's more uncommon to find a lead core, but not sure how rare.

Stainless