Thread: Let's see your newest acquisitions!

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I Know I'm rusty at showing pictures , but it is a start



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I just had a bunch of newps from the last five months imaged ...

A upgraded ancient to a type I already have. This one has clean fields where my old one was rough but with details.

Originally Posted by Mat

A upgraded ancient to a type I already have. This one has clean fields where my old one was rough but with details.

I like ancients coin but how can you be 100% sure it not a counterfeit made about the same time?
as counterfeiting coin back then was done like China is doing today.
Is there any way u can tell without having it graded????

Originally Posted by jello

I like ancients coin but how can you be 100% sure it not a counterfeit made about the same time?
as counterfeiting coin back then was done like China is doing today.
Is there any way u can tell without having it graded????

Education. Are you saying Jello you cannot tell a fake coin most of the time for US coins? Modern coins are actually harder to tell, since they were machine made so easier to die transfer. A cast is fairly easy to tell, so to fake an ancient you have to use ancient techniques. If you use ancient techniques it means the flan preparation, die engraving, etc. I would say faking an ancient is harder to do that faking a modern coin. Most of the time fakers simply get the style wrong.

You are very right there are fake ancients, many are posted here every week. Many come from cereal box promotions from the 60's and the like. The ancient field, since we have been dealing with them for hundreds of years, simply is more versed with dealing with them than other fields that haven't had such a problem until recently.

Should someone who hasn't personally handled a ton of ancient coins and educated themselves on them buy coins from just anywhere? Of course not, new collectors should buy from ancient dealers, or have an ancient collector help them. Once you spend a number of years around these, you start recognizing the fakes for what they are, and learn how to spot 90% of them in 5 seconds if the coin is in your hand.

Btw Jello, you mention fakes "made at the same time", that would be a contemporary counterfiet. Those are just about as valuable as authentic coins, and very interesting. We have no problem with coins if they are of the correct age, on who minted them. There are some wonderful collections of "limes" coins, imitation Roman coins made on the outskirts of the empire. I own a few myself, and love them. In many ways a lot of celtic coins could be classified as contemporary counterfiets, since they were imitating Greek issues in their designs. I prefer the celtic coins to the greek ones.

Just came today 1886-P MS64*

Originally Posted by dwhiz

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By the way it's a no line fatty

Originally Posted by dwhiz

By the way it's a no line fatty

Looks real clean. Nice Morgan.

A big thanks to Cazkaboom for hooking me up with these.






These coins are really pretty in hand. I would take pictures myself but it wouldn't look as good and plus I see the toning is really hard to capture with the camera.

Originally Posted by icerain

A big thanks to Cazkaboom for hooking me up with these.






These coins are really pretty in hand. I would take pictures myself but it wouldn't look as good and plus I see the toning is really hard to capture with the camera.

Yes, I agree. This is the best I could capture the toning on the 91 but couldn't quite get the reverse toning.

Just back from the PCGS picture studio. PR62Cam

Nice, Robec! That's a beautiful piece. Thanks for showing it! -L

1903 O Half Dollar.

Originally Posted by medoraman

Education. Are you saying Jello you cannot tell a fake coin most of the time for US coins? Modern coins are actually harder to tell, since they were machine made so easier to die transfer. A cast is fairly easy to tell, so to fake an ancient you have to use ancient techniques. If you use ancient techniques it means the flan preparation, die engraving, etc. I would say faking an ancient is harder to do that faking a modern coin. Most of the time fakers simply get the style wrong.

You are very right there are fake ancients, many are posted here every week. Many come from cereal box promotions from the 60's and the like. The ancient field, since we have been dealing with them for hundreds of years, simply is more versed with dealing with them than other fields that haven't had such a problem until recently.

Should someone who hasn't personally handled a ton of ancient coins and educated themselves on them buy coins from just anywhere? Of course not, new collectors should buy from ancient dealers, or have an ancient collector help them. Once you spend a number of years around these, you start recognizing the fakes for what they are, and learn how to spot 90% of them in 5 seconds if the coin is in your hand.

Btw Jello, you mention fakes "made at the same time", that would be a contemporary counterfiet. Those are just about as valuable as authentic coins, and very interesting. We have no problem with coins if they are of the correct age, on who minted them. There are some wonderful collections of "limes" coins, imitation Roman coins made on the outskirts of the empire. I own a few myself, and love them. In many ways a lot of celtic coins could be classified as contemporary counterfiets, since they were imitating Greek issues in their designs. I prefer the celtic coins to the greek ones.

thanks for the info!!!
One more thing soon Coin World just reported, "Cornell University will have a free online web site photos 1500 of the better known Ancient"