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05-29-2004, 04:52 PM
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| Finding a dealer
Here is where your options are only limited by your time. http://anamarket.money.org/ http://greysheet.com/cdn/numdd.asp
There are so many places to search for dealers. I would suggest that anyone searching for a dealer, should look for dealers who are members of the ANA or PNG. They should also be listed in the numismatic dealers directory.
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05-31-2004, 10:38 AM
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Watch for dealers who sell coins certified by lower end certification companies. This should be a warning.
The acceptable grading services are:
NGC
PCGS
ANACS
ICG
All others should be avoided by collectors who are not very well-versed in grading standards.
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06-02-2004, 06:26 PM
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I went in to look around at the local coin shop and spoke to the dealer. Had some interesting dialogue with him.
The local dealer here told me that a proof is typically, generally, normally MS-69 when it leaves the mint. Is this true, National Dealer?
Perhaps I misunderstood him but after our conversation, I was left with that impression.
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06-02-2004, 06:41 PM
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...excuse me please, I meant to write PR-69 instead of MS-69.
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12-04-2007, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by National dealer Watch for dealers who sell coins certified by lower end certification companies. This should be a warning.
The acceptable grading services are:
NGC
PCGS
ANACS
ICG
All others should be avoided by collectors who are not very well-versed in grading standards. |
What about ICCS?
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12-04-2007, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by luc87 What about ICCS? |
Did you look at when that post was made ? It was in 2004. At that time there were many people who had never even heard of ICCS.
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12-08-2007, 10:42 PM
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Buy the coin, not the slab. The coin is what the coin is, no matter who slabbed it. A dealer cannot be judged by the company who slabbed a coin he has.
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12-18-2007, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by coinlvr ....A dealer cannot be judged by the company who slabbed a coin he has. | That's not necessarily true. If you see a dealer whose inventory consists primarily of (I'll be kind, here)coins graded by "less respected grading companies", that can be a sign that he is trying to take advantage of uninformed collectors.
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06-03-2004, 10:10 AM
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The mint has gotten very, very good at the minting process, but 69 is reaching. All modern coins whether Mint state or Proof have an average of 67-68. This does not include circulation quality coins. These are coins that come in Mint or Proof sets. Anything lower than 67 is a weak or bad strike. I routinely submit thousands of coins a year for certification. 69 is not an easy grade to hit. 68's are a dime a dozen. But consider this, most 68's hold a value less than the price of the slab.
The only way to get 69's or 70's from all modern proofs or mint coins is to send them to a less than reputable grading service.
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06-03-2004, 09:14 PM
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Thanks for clearing that up for me, National Dealer. The local coin dealer here may have exaggerated somewhat with his comment and his personal opinion may be wrong but now I don't feel as though he was feeding me a line of horse manure...  for lack of a better way to put it.
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06-04-2004, 12:18 AM
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Nd - I will readily agree that 68s are a dime a dozen for Proof coins - but I would aslo say that 69 is a far more common grade than 68. A quick look at any of the population reports would confirm this.
I would strongly disagree that this is so for business strikes - even if they do come from mint sets. MS68 coins are anything but common. MS69 is all but unheard of. I should qualify my statement to say that I am talking about coins graded by the top tier grading companies.
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07-03-2004, 06:24 PM
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What if I would prefer to buy from dealers that frequent this board? Is there a thread somewhere that I have missed that lists the members of his board and their websites? Or do I have to click each member profile?
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07-03-2004, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mitchell What if I would prefer to buy from dealers that frequent this board? Is there a thread somewhere that I have missed that lists the members of his board and their websites? Or do I have to click each member profile? | A couple of our dealer friends are out of town.
You might want to see if this gentleman can help you: LINK(click here) |
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07-27-2004, 04:23 PM
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Finding a great dealer is a snap. Just look for this sign CLICK HERE
haha couldn't resist, sowwy
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07-28-2004, 08:06 PM
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