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05-28-2006, 10:15 PM
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I've been reading some of the earlier threads on the Commems for Lincoln in 2009. There is mention of an all copper cent among them. How many of you would think it cool, and perhaps appropriate,that it be a 100th year rendition of the series progenator,the 1909 SVDB? I know! 101 actually but you get the point!
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05-29-2006, 12:17 AM
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I think it would be great for the mint to do a special commemorative 1 cent piece in 2009, but unless they keep the mintage down under 100,000, I'll never live long enough to see it become that special of a collectable.
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05-29-2006, 08:24 AM
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I expect that there will be a 2009S VDB Cent but will be in the trillions for mintage. The Mint will see a great chance to make money selling these by the roll, pound, ton, truckload, etc. and people will buy it.
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05-30-2006, 12:51 AM
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I will buy it...
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05-30-2006, 12:57 AM
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it would rock if it were, except for the date, diagnostically exact to the 1909.
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05-30-2006, 03:36 PM
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If they do have a centennial cent and the mintage is in the trillions, it will be about as valuable as the 1976 Bicentennial Quarters.
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05-30-2006, 05:17 PM
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The legislation for the 2009 cent says that the cents for collectable purchasers will be minted in the copper. The 4 different reverses will depict 4 stages of Lincolns life. The circucalion coins will likly be zlincolns and no mention of wheat ears or VDBs.
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05-30-2006, 09:03 PM
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I think bqcoins has in mind what I was thinking, the exact copy except for date. I like low mintages as much as the next guy but hadn't really thought about it for this issue. Just thought a great 100 year series bracketed by two nearly identical coins would be a neat first.
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05-30-2006, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Just Carl If they do have a centennial cent and the mintage is in the trillions, it will be about as valuable as the 1976 Bicentennial Quarters. | LOL Carl!! 
25c?
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05-30-2006, 10:33 PM
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There is a bill in congress to get rid of the cent after the 2009 commems. It would be a nice swan song.
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05-30-2006, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Just Carl If they do have a centennial cent and the mintage is in the trillions, it will be about as valuable as the 1976 Bicentennial Quarters. | But just think that would mean they were worth$ .25 each right?
HA HA
I agree that it would be a great thing to do and would make a great companion to the 1919 SVDB and I would buy them.
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05-31-2006, 01:37 PM
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Sorry guys but this has already been decided.
(a) IN GENERAL.--During the year 2009, the Secretary of the
Treasury shall issue 1-cent coins in accordance with the following
design specifications:
(1) OBVERSE.--The obverse of the 1-cent coin shall continue
to bear the Victor David Brenner likeness of President Abraham
Lincoln.
(2) REVERSE.--The reverse of the coins shall bear 4 different
designs each representing a different aspect of the life of
Abraham Lincoln, such as--
(A) his birth and early childhood in Kentucky;
(B) his formative years in Indiana;
(C) his professional life in Illinois; and
(D) his presidency, in Washington, D.C.
(b) ISSUANCE OF REDESIGNED LINCOLN CENTS IN 2009.--
(1) ORDER.--The 1-cent coins to which this section applies
shall be issued with 1 of the 4 designs referred to in subsection
(a)(2) beginning at the start of each calendar quarter of 2009.
(2) NUMBER.--The Secretary shall prescribe, on the basis
of such factors as the Secretary determines to be appropriate,
the number of 1-cent coins that shall be issued with each
of the designs selected for each calendar quarter of 2009.
(c) DESIGN SELECTION.--The designs for the coins specified
in this section shall be chosen by the Secretary--
(1) after consultation with the Abraham Lincoln Bicenten-
nial Commission and the Commission of Fine Arts; and
(2) after review by the Citizens Coinage Advisory Com-
mittee.
SEC. 303. REDESIGN OF REVERSE OF 1-CENT COINS AFTER 2009.
The design on the reverse of the 1-cent coins issued after
December 31, 2009, shall bear an image emblematic of President
Lincoln's preservation of the United States of America as a single
and united country.
SEC. 304. NUMISMATIC PENNIES WITH THE SAME METALLIC CONTENT
AS THE 1909 PENNY.
The Secretary of the Treasury shall issue 1-cent coins in 2009
with the exact metallic content as the 1-cent coin contained in
1909 in such number as the Secretary determines to be appropriate
for numismatic purposes.
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05-31-2006, 02:30 PM
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OK if I'm translating all of that correctly, it means that there will be 4 different reverses on pennies in 2009, and starting in 2010 there will be a completely different reverse that will be minted indefinitely (until such time as they choose to make a design change again). Also a certain number of 2009 cents will be minted in the original copper for sake of collectors.
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05-31-2006, 03:10 PM
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You are correct. And I don't think Wheaties fit any of the criteria.
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05-31-2006, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dockwalliper You are correct. And I don't think Wheaties fit any of the criteria. | Nope it doesn't... unless you consider the wheat reverse to be "...an image emblematic of President
Lincoln's preservation of the United States of America as a single and united country." Which at best is quite a stretch, lol. Basically it will be the opposite of the current nickel... instead of essentially keeping the old reverse (except for touching up the details) and changing the obverse, they will be keeping the obverse and changing to a new reverse.
As for the copper ones... I'm not sure if each mint will produce the set or if they'll just keep them at San Francisco (ehich may help avoid confusion with the two different planchets). There will be 8 different varities in 2009 already, only counting the business strikes for circulation... add the proofs, the matte finish uncirculated, and the two different metal compositions, this will beat 1982's record of the most cent varities in a given year, lol...
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