Thread: People, Do NOT, Under ANY Circumstances, Buy Coins Online Using Money Orders

Originally Posted by green18

Sad indeed about Sampson. Perhaps there are other issues at hand? Afterall, he hasn't posted here in awhile.....

From what he told me, he sent it and I never got it. He said he insured it, but never followed up and has stopped returning my emails after I told him to put in a claim, get the cash, and send me 2 rolls of 40%'ers he owed me... he never responded.

Originally Posted by Peter T Davis

Paypal is NOT any more safe than a money order. I would say in some ways it is much less safe.

I am not sure what makes you say that. From what I can read, you pretty much have the same protection using PayPal as you have using a CC. The only problem (only applicable for non-eBay purchases) is the recovery of funds may be a problem. For those cases, you get a second level of protection when you use a CC through PayPAl.

Peter, no I do not. When I needed to back up the PayPal account, I opened a PayPal credit card (Citi-Bank ?) instead. Although, I have transfered funds to my bank and made payments on the credit card from my bank, that is the only connection I have.

Originally Posted by Ladies First

Isn't there a way to make a sticky thread for positive transactions, kind of like an eBay feedback?

This is an awesome idea.

There are "Trade" systems out there for forums, I know one forum I used to frequent uses one.

The only times I've ever been ripped off online is when I've used Paypal. And, no, they did not stand behind me even though I filed cases each time and they ruled in my favor, they never refunded the money. And, that's probably as much as I should say about it because Ebay/Paypal has used intimidation against me before to get me to remove threads from this forum and I can't afford to have them freeze my accounts with them again.

What? That's abominable......

There's a reason most people hate paypal.

Originally Posted by Peter T Davis

The only times I've ever been ripped off online is when I've used Paypal. And, no, they did not stand behind me even though I filed cases each time and they ruled in my favor, they never refunded the money. And, that's probably as much as I should say about it because Ebay/Paypal has used intimidation against me before to get me to remove threads from this forum and I can't afford to have them freeze my accounts with them again.

Now Peter, I understand if you can not get into details with what this question states.

But, how in God's name did they use intimidation against you over things you own? I'm well aware that the intimidation of which you speak would be account's being frozen or suspended, but how did they find the threads that you are speaking of, and how is that even a legal thing to do?

Let's say there is a teacher. One student constantly criticizes her for his/her wrong doings, and other's agree. The teacher then hears about this and then forces the student to stop by intimidation. (This meaning, giving 0's instead of the grade he/she deserves.)

In a way this is the same situation. You've worked hard for, and own this forum. This is yours, and you can shut it down at any minute. Now because you said, or your members had said bad things, eBay has forced you to remove the threads? They are a third party, they have no power over this forum, and they cannot shut it down. So they used something very petty against you, freezing accounts until their "good" name was cleared on your forum.

Peter, that is absolute BS.

How did they find out about things that happen on this forum, and why are their claims against you any more valid over claims that you and your members make about them?

Originally Posted by Peter T Davis

Paypal is NOT any more safe than a money order. I would say in some ways it is much less safe.

You are crazy or maybe just really badly informed. I have been covered by paypal for several transactions gone bad. I also have had an unscrupulous lessee try to recover security deposit to no avail. I swear by PayPal

Originally Posted by EyeEatWheaties

You are crazy or maybe just really badly informed. I have been covered by paypal for several transactions gone bad. I also have had an unscrupulous lessee try to recover security deposit to no avail. I swear by PayPal

Oh dear. Not good form to be callin' Peter crazy and I highly doubt he's ill informed.

Originally Posted by EyeEatWheaties

You are crazy or maybe just really badly informed. I have been covered by paypal for several transactions gone bad. I also have had an unscrupulous lessee try to recover security deposit to no avail. I swear by PayPal

What Peter is saying USED to be correct. I was burnt a couple of times 2+ years ago. However, they have changed their policies about 2 years ago and again the beginning of this year. From what I can understand, today you are now pretty much guaranteed a refund if you have a problem on eBay, but I am not sure about outside eBay.

Man, all I am gonna say is this is scary. I think I will continue to keep my transactions to the same level as I am willing to lose in a slot machine. That way, if I do get ripped off, I can mark it down as educational expenses ? Seriously, freezing a bank account over a "personal" dispute seems just about as unethical as can be. Probably violates several banking regulations under international laws ?

Paypal isn't a bank. Banking regulations do not apply to them.

Originally Posted by 10gary22

Man, all I am gonna say is this is scary. I think I will continue to keep my transactions to the same level as I am willing to lose in a slot machine. That way, if I do get ripped off, I can mark it down as educational expenses ? Seriously, freezing a bank account over a "personal" dispute seems just about as unethical as can be. Probably violates several banking regulations under international laws ?

Although I agree personal disputes should not in anyway affect our banking, I would much prefer that than to have any international laws regulating our personal banking.