zaneman

SGS, ICC, NTC, anyplace would have been better I am sure. I would rather send my coins to SGS at this point than ANACS.

zaneman

Part of the reason I am annoyed, is they have a coin that is worth between 2-3k, and I have to move to California, and need to sell it with some other stuff in order to move.

Charlie32

Update: I talked to James Taylor today and he said that he knew about how easy it was to open the new holders, and that it had been fixed.

Charlie

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airedale

I wonder what they will do about the ones already out there?

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airedale

I wonder what they will do about the ones already out there?

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airedale

Does this mean one should be suspect of any coin as a possible replacement in a new ANACS holder. It seems so.

Let me recollect what I have read lately.
Speedy says that ICG admits to over grading.
GDJMSP offers the possibility that PCGS grades 70's primarily for insider use.
Midas has established that NGC grades 5 to 20 times as many coins 70 as PCGS.

The top two tiers are looking a little questionable to my untrained eye at the moment.

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GDJMSP

Yeah, but when you compare them to all the others - they still stand head, shoulders and most of the torso above the rest.

Nobody has ever said that the TPG's are perfect - they are not, far from it. Every single one of them overgrades, undergrades, and bodybags coins when they shouldn't from time to time. But when you consider what they do overall - they do a pretty dang good job.

No, they are not perfect. But when you compare what they do today to what we had 20 years ago when they didn't exist - I'll take today anytime.

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airedale

Did they ever do a recall on the tamper-able holders out there or just forget about them. That would seem like a good reason to avoid ANACS if they did nothing.

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Charlie32

From what I've heard, the slabs are still easily openable without evidence of tampering. I won't be sending coins to ANACS any time soon.

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Richard01

I have only submitted about 40 coins to ANAC's. I was happy with most grading, I think they misgraded a few (and I sent them to NGC and recieved grades that made more sense).
However, that happens.
My gripe was that I sent many of my coins 5 day express, and did not get them back for 45 business days! I called and sent emails and they admitted they lost them, then found them in the vault. Mostly move related. Fine... but they should have refunded the express part of my payment, or offered me something to apologize. They were very nice... but I was not offered any recompense... and I think I'll stick with NGC now.
I for one love the new ANAC's holder, however. The coin is really easy to see and image. I wish NGC had a more clear holder...

chasindreams

hi Charlie,,,I read your message about you sayin ANACS-SLAB HOLDERS, are easy to open up, without anyone knowing? I thought all Grading-Service Slab holders had it to where, to would be almost impossible to Crack-Open,,, without showing some kind of force , or markings,,,,,how are these Grading Services slabbing for security measures, anyway,,,,,Maybe Anacs ' needs to use a heavy-dose of (Super-Glue) so no dishonest or otherwise can open them ... If anyone knows about this, please post ,thanks so much ! In Adv/ chasindreams

Speedy

Charlie---what did you think of Mr Taylor??...
The first time I talked to him he was really nice and the last time you would have thought I was going to kill him....maybe I just hit him at a bad time but it wasn't the nice talk I had before.

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He was nice enough... I hope I'll be able to meet him in person at the CSNS show.

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Cloudsweeper99

I greatly appreciate the service provided by the major grading companies. It is enormously beneficial to someone like me to be able to buy a coin that has been examined by a team of experts who have determined that it is authentic, not harshly cleaned or damaged, is roughly a high, middle, or low condition uncirculated coin, and is sealed in a tamper-proof holder that also protects the coin. The people trying to make a clear distinction between an MS65 and MS66 because a couple of thousand dollars of value is riding on the difference are playing a different game and looking for assurances that may not be possible. I don't get involved with coins where the conditional rarity between one grade and the next is so great that it has a large impact on the price. That would terrify me.

But with that said, the above comments lead me to believe that it is safest to avoid ANACS coins in the new holders. From a business standpoint, they probably should redesign them again so collectors can make a distinction between the new flawed design and the corrected design. Fixing the problem without providing a way to identify the holders that were not tamper-proof is no fix at all. I believe I own more coins in old ANACS holders than any other TPG. I won't be buying any coins in the new holders.

zaneman

Well, I was told on Friday by ANACS, that my coins were being shipped on Friday. I called again today, and was told they were being shipped in a few hours. I mentioned that my fiance had paid for email service(where they email you the grades), and was told that oh, they haven't gotten the email service set up yet (but they charged my fiances credit card anyway), and that they could tell me the grades over the phone, they didn't have those, so they said they would call me back. My fiance just got a call, saying that the grades were not available, as they needed to be graded once more? This is getting out of hand.