CoinTalk

Welcome to Coin Talk! Register Now, it's easy and FREE!

Thousands of coin collectors, numismatists, coin dealers, bullion investors, and enthusiasts make Coin Talk their number one source for numismatic news, information about US and world coins, discussions and community.

You are currently viewing Coin Talk as a guest, which limits your access to content, contests and information. By joining our free community, you will be able to join in discussions, contact other members, place free advertisements, enter contests, and much more. Registration is easy and free. Register Now


Go Back   CoinTalk > Coin Forums > Coin Chat

Notices

Coin Chat Please use this section for discussion of numismatic topics that don't fit in other sections.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 01-20-2006, 10:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 304
New process for Silver coins

Do you think this would be a good or bad thing if this process is used to make the silver coins of the future


Major Breakthrough for Silver Industry - World’s First Non-Tarnishing Sterling Silver

British experts have pioneered the world’s first non-tarnishing sterling silver in a breakthrough that could revolutionise the silver industry.

Researchers in Sheffield, the city famous for stainless steel, have developed a ‘stainless silver’ alloy that resists the discolouring effect of pollutants and retains its bright finish.

The groundbreaking alloy, developed by researchers from Sheffield Hallam University’s Materials and Engineering Research Institute (MERI) and leading UK silverware brand Carrs of Sheffield, could boost the global market for silver, often dismissed as the ‘poor man’s gold.’

The new product outshines standard sterling silver by keeping its shine and colour intact, putting an end to regular polishing and high care costs. Marketed as Carrs Lustre Silver, makers hope it will change the public’s perception of traditionally high-maintenance silverware.

Dr Hywel Jones from MERI said:

“The biggest problem with silver as a precious metal is that it tarnishes with time. The yellowing or blackening of the metal means that traditional silver items like cutlery are increasingly unattractive for the modern market, because they need a lot of upkeep.”

“The new alloy has exceeded all our expectations and is a development of great significance. Silver has been used by man for 5000 years and this is one of the most important developments in that time.

"It has potential to be exploited in areas other than silverware, for example in electrical connectors, a huge market in today's world of computers and electronic control systems"

Independent tests at the Sheffield Assay Office and the Cutlery and Allied Trades Research Association (CATRA) have proven its resistance to tarnishing, which occurs when silver reacts with sulphur containing substances in the air, forming a silver sulphide film that blackens the surface of the metal.

Dr Jones said:

“Previous attempts to produce a ‘stainless’ silver by adding germanium for example have resulted in alloys that were difficult to manufacture. Not only does our alloy resist tarnishing, but it can be cast, rolled, worked by silversmiths, soldered, heat-treated and polished without any of the problems that can arise when you change the chemistry and mechanical properties of an existing alloy. It’s also resistant to fire-staining, which makes the production process more efficient.

“The ‘stainless’ silver finished product requires no polish; just a simple wipe with a cloth restores its original finish, meaning that it’s as good as gold in terms of being tarnish-proof.”

Carrs Silver founder Ron Carr added:

“We recognised the need for a new sterling silver for a new generation, because customers want products that stay looking beautiful with the minimum of effort.”

Lustre Silver has been developed over four years as part of a €2.2m European-funded research project. Manufactured exclusively by Carrs of Sheffield, it will be officially launched at the Spring Fair, Birmingham NEC (5-9 February, 2006), along with a new Lustre range that includes iPod nano holders, business card holders, passport covers and cutlery.
__________________
Richard
rggoodie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2006, 10:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
Member
 
MrSpud's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: The Carolinas
Posts: 50
Very interesting. Great news for people who like brilliant white coins but who live in humid climates. Not so great for fans of toning though
MrSpud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2006, 12:26 AM   #3 (permalink)
Retired
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,822
Quote:
The ‘stainless’ silver finished product requires no polish; just a simple wipe with a cloth restores its original finish


So the trade off is hairlines for tarnish?
__________________
Roy
satootoko is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2006, 03:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
Numismatist
 
GDJMSP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: PA
Posts: 23,534
Based on the story it's obvious they did not do all this research for the product to be used in the manufacture of coins. And from the sound of things - it's not really what they advertise it to be. If it was tarnish free - why would it need to be wiped off with a cloth ? What else would they be wiping off except tarnish ?
__________________
knowledge ..... share it
GDJMSP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2006, 06:13 PM   #5 (permalink)
The Coin Troll
 
The_Cave_Troll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Dallas
Posts: 2,506
Quote:
Originally Posted by GDJMSP
Based on the story it's obvious they did not do all this research for the product to be used in the manufacture of coins. And from the sound of things - it's not really what they advertise it to be. If it was tarnish free - why would it need to be wiped off with a cloth ? What else would they be wiping off except tarnish ?
I think the answer to this is that it is to get the food off, since they are talking about tableware.

I remember my Dad getting out the silver polish to work on some silver spoons that he'd picked up at garage sales, this is meant to make the polish/tarnish removing chemicals obsolete.


I agree, this wasn't invented for use in coins, but it is interesting, none-the-less.
__________________
"From time to time the Tree of Liberty must be refreshed with the blood of Patriots and of Tyrants."
-Thomas Jefferson
The_Cave_Troll is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2006, 03:44 PM   #6 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
quick dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Placerville, CA
Posts: 405
I wonder if it is like so-called "German Silver"?

On the basis of tradition and art, I don't think much of the new alloy. If that sort of thing is wanted, ojne could always use chrome-plated artifacts.

Second thought, I suppose that artisan workability is the real issue.
quick dog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2006, 09:20 AM   #7 (permalink)
Treasure Hunter
 
Cloudsweeper99's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 5,242
It sounds like this is a non-starter as far as numismatic coins go.
Cloudsweeper99 is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks
Would you like to support CoinTalk?

Coin Talk Code of Honor
1. Post unto others as you would have them post unto you.
2. Keep it clean, like a 1950s family television show.
3. If you don't like the coin, don't trash the person.

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


» Newsletter
Sign up for CoinTalk's Newsletter
enter your email address below.
» Unanswered Posts
Do You Have the Answer?
» Sponsors

» Today's Top Posters
Top Posters in Last 1 Days
[40]
[26]
[26]
[16]
[15]
[15]
[14]
[14]
[12]
[12]

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:16 AM.


vBAdvertise v1.0.0 Copyright ©2009, PixelFX Studios
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007 - 2008, PixelFX Studios
Copyright 2008 CoinTalk
"Wiki" powered by VaultWiki v2.5.0.
Copyright © 2008 - 2009, Cracked Egg Studios.