Speedy

Wm H. Harrison and Benjamin Harrison and Abraham Lincoln....

The Harrisons are cousins to me but not too near...(I think it was the 6th over but am not 100% sure)....and Lincoln is even farther than that but it was still written down in a book around here---I haevn't looked at it for about a year and I need to....

Speedy

__________________
Coin collecting is the only hobby in the world that you can spend all the money in the world and still have some left over

WINS - ANA - CONECA -

glaciermi

well add Andrew Jackson to your list too. Andrew Jackson was a not so distant relative to the Harrisons I have read in the past.


Actually I have been reviewing my uncles extensive work on geneology of my paternal side of the family. He has traced my paternal grandfathers mothers side of the family back to their arrival and founding of Hartford, Connecticut in 1635. Unfortunately or fortunately (far be it from me to make decisions for ancesters) they were Loyalists in the Revolution. Arrested and their land taken many turned north to Canada, those that didn't go packed up and moved west to Indiana and Illinois. My grandfathers grandfather's father was a member of the Lewis and Clark expedition.

justafarmer

mrbrklyn posted:
"Its easy. Computers, which is what all these monetary systems are to date, can do this with no real expense. The growing problem of pennys is a more expensive problem. It takes at least 25 pennies for even the smallest of value."

But it is not that easy - because all those monetary systems are not integrated into a computer information system. Most smalll business operate accounting software seperate of cash registers. Even in the intergrated systems all software will have to be up-graded or replaced. This is not done for free. Individual states will have to pass legislation addressing which parties are entitled to breakage and there exist a whole myrid of problems. Yes - getting rid of the one cent piece can be done - - but there is a more significant cost (monetarily and logistically) associated with it than the general American Public realizes.

Speedy

Well if I keep doing that I might as well add you too....because it would come to that in the end
Thanks...I didn't know that as it wasn't written down in the book I was reading!!!

Speedy

__________________
Coin collecting is the only hobby in the world that you can spend all the money in the world and still have some left over

WINS - ANA - CONECA -

glaciermi

The Benjamin Harrison home in downtown Indianapolis is an interesting place to visit. If your in Indy you may want to stop for an hour.

http://www.presidentbenjaminharrison.org/

I'm also thinking the Tippicanoe Battlefield in Lafayette Indiana is also an interesting spot.

http://www.tcha.mus.in.us/battlefield.htm

Speedy

Cool
I'm in Indy about 1 time a year but never for long...just driving through it to another town....maybe I'll have to stop!

Speedy

__________________
Coin collecting is the only hobby in the world that you can spend all the money in the world and still have some left over

WINS - ANA - CONECA -

GaryBurke

I can understand why true coin collectors don't care for the proposed new coins. They won't circulate, and therefore, are they coins? Also, politics enters in. Starting with President Clinton, and continuing through Bush, extreme dislike (hatred?) for our leaders has become evident. This is sad, but isn't the place to discuss that aspect.

As a former history teacher, and a coin collector for 56 years, I hope the President signs the bill, and I look forward to the new issue.

I remember when I first started collecting, and there was really nothing other than regular circulation issues to collect. Now, even though revenue may be the primary reason behind them, there is much that is different to collect.

Bring on the Presidents. I love it! However, I must admit I don't care for the "First Lady" idea. Couldn't afford them anyway.

__________________
ANA: 42203
Favorites: United States, Canadian, British coinage
Coin Collector since 1956

satootoko

You obviously weren't around in the '30s my friend. The hatred (and by others the love) for FDR was thick enough to cut with a spoon.

I'm too young to have personal knowledge , but my understanding of US history is that many presidents were hated (and adored) in their day - Jackson and Lincoln to name the two that immediately come to mind.

__________________
Roy

mrbrklyn

Well, My family can be traced directly to Moses on my mothers side and Kind David on my fathers side.

All this second rate President stuff is soooo boring............

My family was the object of some of those coins being discussed in the ancient coin section over 1000 years before those struffy Hardfordians were busy trying to burn Ann Hutchinson at the stake


That being said, I point you to http://www.brooklynonline.com/bol/history/bankoff.html

Illya2

The real problem with this coin is that it just won't circulate. That's not too much of a problem with the Sac dollars because that's really only one coin with different dates. But when you get fifty some odd useless coins not going anywhere that's just plain messy. Sure it would be nice to think people might start using dollar coins more but the truth is that coin usage is generally declining each year. The odds of increased circulation are minimal to nil. The state quarters were sucessful because they are...quarters. Surely the mint knows this. They must be counting on folks like us to make this a profitable venture.

GaryBurke

Roy, you are, of course, correct.

My parents and grandparents told me many stories of the love/hate relationship regarding FDR. As a former history teacher, I am also aware of the feelings held for Jackson and Lincoln.

If I could revise my statement, I'd probably remove the word "Starting."

The hatred for Clinton and Bush are the most recent in a long line. As I look back at recent history, I recall some dislike for Ike, JFK, Johnson, Nixon, Carter, etc., but not all the venom-spewing rhetoric you hear, especially from the right and left wings.

Hopefully, down the road, regardless of party, someone will come along who can unite the country rather than divide.

__________________
ANA: 42203
Favorites: United States, Canadian, British coinage
Coin Collector since 1956

fjrosetti

Amen to a uniter leading this country after the last decade of hatefulness towards two very different presidents.

A couple of questions concerning the new presidential/spouse series about to be signed into law:

First, why two Grover Cleveland coins? Seems unfair somehow, especially as it would have been no problem at all to incorporate the years of both terms onto a single coin.

Secondly, who on earth picked Alice Paul to represent Chester Arthur's term since his wife had already died years before he became president. Just what this series didn't need was another Susan B added to it! And what about James Buchanan? He was a bachelor, so wonder who will represent him on the 'spouse' coin?

Finally, wonder if the mint will clean up its act regarding the composition/finish of the dollar coin to hopefully do away with the nasty discoloration the current coins get after only a short period in circulation. No one is going to want to save these new dollar coins from circulation if they look terrible.

__________________
Who will save your soul, if you won't save your own? -Jewel

Speedy

Well I think they will still be coins...but more like proof coins...or non-circulated coins and that will be odd....
I don't think it makes a person an non collector if they collect them...I'm still going to call you a coin collector---we just don't collect the same coins and that is GREAT!!!!!!
If we all did it would be bad as prices would go up as everyone would be trying to get that last one coin.

Speedy

__________________
Coin collecting is the only hobby in the world that you can spend all the money in the world and still have some left over

WINS - ANA - CONECA -

Speedy

BTW--I wounder...if you get back in history you find that we had a President for 24 hours in-between inauguration <sp?> (I think it was Grant that came after him but don't quote me on that).....so IMO he was just as much a President than some that we have had---why shouldn't he get a coin??????

Speedy

__________________
Coin collecting is the only hobby in the world that you can spend all the money in the world and still have some left over

WINS - ANA - CONECA -

glaciermi

On March 4, 1849 President-elect Zachary Taylor was to be inaugurated, but he refused as it was a Sunday and did not wish to break the Sabbath. Because of this, some have argued that neither Taylor nor his Vice President Millard Fillmore had any legal authority as president. They go on to argue that, as the previous President's term had expired at noon, David Rice Atchison was Acting President for the day. Both claims are heavily disputed by historians and Constitutional scholars (see the article on Atchison for more detail).

wikopedia

Facts behind the legend
While it is true that the offices of President and Vice President were vacant, Atchison in fact was not next in line. While the terms of James K. Polk and Vice President George Mifflin Dallas expired at midnight on March 4, Atchison's tenure as President Pro Tempore did as well. He also never took the oath of office, although there is no constitutional requirement, then or now, for an Acting President to do so. No disability or lack of qualification prevented Taylor and Fillmore from taking office, and as they had been duly certified as President-elect and Vice-President elect, if Taylor was not President because he had not been sworn in as such, then Atchison, who hadn't been sworn in either, certainly wasn't.

Atchison was sworn in for his new term as President Pro Tempore minutes before both Fillmore and Taylor, which might theoretically make him Acting President for at least that length of time; however, this also implies that any time the Vice President is sworn in before the President, the Vice President is the de facto Acting President. Since this is a common occurrence, if Atchison is considered President, so must every Vice President whose inauguration preceded that of the President. Obviously this is not the case. Therefore, while one could argue that Atchison was legally President for a few minutes (though even this much is debatable), claims that he should be considered an "official" President are absurd.

When asked what he did on March 4, 1849, Atchison replied, "I went to bed. There had been two or three busy nights finishing up the work of the Senate, and I slept most of that Sunday." He jokingly boasted that his "presidency" was the "most honest administration this country ever had."