Daggarjon

Just to help myself and anyone else who might have a question about die errors, doubled dies and/or mint damage, I will list the types i have found, and what i think they are.

Please, if i get any wrong, or missed any, fill in the blanks. Also, if anyone can fill in what types fetch a premium and which ones are only worth face value (or less), that would also greatly help:

1-Doubled Dies--------------------------------Mint Error (Variety - foundinrolls)
2-Strike Doubling (mechanical, Machine)----Mint Damage
3-Struck Throughs (grease/dirt)--------------Mint Damage
4-Die Gouge/Scratch--------------------------Mint Damage
5-Die Break------------------------------------Mint Damage
6-Filled Die------------------------------------Mint Damage
7-Clipped planchet----------------------------Mint Error
8-Off Center-----------------------------------Mint Error
9-Double Strike--------------------------------Mint Error
10-Broad Strike--------------------------------Mint Error
11-Double Denomination-----------------------Mint Error
12-Lamination Error----------------------------Mint Damage
13-Brockage------------------------------------Mint Error [B12]
14-Capped Die Strike---------------------------????

Added:
15-RPM (Repunched Mint mark)---------------Mint Error
16-Repunched Date----------------------------Mint Error
17-Cud-----------------------------------------Mint Damage

B12

A Brockage is a Mint Error. B12

happycobra

I’m going to stick my foot in my mouth and try to give you “my” opinion of prices.

2-Machine type doubling. Worth next to nothing and less in proofs. The exceptions are extreme and unique doubling and things like the 1955 poor-mans-double die ($5 or less).

7-Clipped planchet. $1-$50+ over value of the coin. The grater the clip the grater the value. They are worth less if the clip removes the date. I’ve read the mint filters the planchets so look the newer clipped coins over for fakes before buying.

8-Off Center $1-$50+ over value of the coin. The grater the offset the grater the value. They are worth less if the clip removes the date.

12-Lamination Error. 0-$10. Countered damage for the most part. When grading coins laminations may drop the grade. Sold as an error the uglier the better. They also seem to be more common in the older soled metal coins than the clad and plated ones we have now.

foundinrolls

Doubled Die - Variety :-) Not Mint Error even though there was a mistake in the production of the die

Daggarjon

Gotcha. I read the thread you started on the differance between errors and varieties (great explanation), but for simplicity here, i am basically just trying to tell the differance in all the different types. From what i have gathered there are 2 'classes'. Those that increase in value because of whats happened to the coin (varieties and errors) and those that either do not increase in value at all, or only very slight among a small group of collectors (mint damage coins). I understand what you wrote in your thread, but not yet enough where i could actually apply it. So for the list above, it was easier to simplify it between errors and damge first, and then filter down from errors to varieties.

foundinrolls

Gotchya! Thanks :-)

mikediamond

I hope these edits prove helpful.

Daggarjon

They do, in a way, yes. Thank you. However, it is confusing for an error newcomer like myself as well. For instance, a Strike Doubling error (worthless above face value) is considered the same as a Double Denomination (worth a considerable amount over face) error - both are a mint errors. I was hoping to be able to differentiate between not only errors and varieties, but also those that are worth a premium and those that are not. its hard for a newcomer to this arena to get all this straight.

happycobra

Hears a good link about the different types of die doubling
http://varietynickels.com/Doubling%20Monograph.pdf

If you need some info on the hubbing process (copying dies) and how double dies are made go here.
http://varietynickels.com/whatrdd.htm


I copied all this from “Learn About Die Doubling...” thread found here.
http://www.cointalk.org/thread4446-l...-doubling.html

I hope this helps.

Daggarjon

Yes they do. I have been to that thread, and to all the links. They were very helpful in telling all about Doubled Dies and Strike Doubles, especially how to tell the differance. Now if only all the other errors, values and differances were that easy

happycobra

Are you looking through pocket change and trying to price what you find?

Conder101

Do not confuse strike doubling with double striking. They are two totally different things.

Your #3 and #6 are basicly the same thing. A filled die is where part of the die has filled with dirt and grease. #3 would be better as Strike Through (foreign object ie: lint, string, scrap etc) It would still be a mint error.

Your number 5 should be die crack. A die break and a cud are the same thing and cud is covered under #17.

1-Doubled Dies--------------------------------die variety Premium (amount varies)
2-Strike Doubling (mechanical, Machine)----mint error No premium
3-Struck Throughs (foreign object)--------------mint error Usually no premium
4-Die Gouge/Scratch--------------------------die error Usually no premium
5-Die Crack------------------------------------die error Usually no premium
6-Filled Die------------------------------------mint error Usually no premium
7-Clipped planchet----------------------------Mint Error Premium amount varies
8-Off Center-----------------------------------Mint Error Premium amount varies
9-Double Strike--------------------------------Mint Error Premium
10-Broadstrike--------------------------------Mint Error Premium
11-Double Denomination-----------------------Mint Error DEFINITE Premium
12-Lamination Error----------------------------mint Error No Premium unless extreme
13-Brockage------------------------------------Mint Error DEFINITE Premium
14-Capped Die Strike---------------------------Mint Error Premium
15-RPM (Repunched Mint mark)---------------die variety Maybe a premium
16-Repunched Date----------------------------die variety Maybe a premium
17-Cud-----------------------------------------die error Maybe Premium (varies)

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