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I didn't give NGC enough time to adjust their POP report, but they did ...and I even mentioned it in a post-folow-up-post, so yes...the likes of PCGS and NGC will adjust their POP reports.

How can they when not everyone sends in the lables after they crack the slab....the POP reports shouldn't be used to see who is better.

I

substantiated my argumemt with published reports from BOTH PCGS and NGC. In my previous example with the common date Lincoln cents (easily found in RED condition), I demonstrated three examples of where NGC gave out way more MS67 grades then PCGS. Is this a coincidence?

You aren't going to change your mind and I sure ain't going to change mine so is there need to keep on talking about the same thing....

You say that NGC grades conservatively, but from what I have seen (in hand), what I heard, what I have read, and what I have been told,

Same with me....from what I see IN HAND and hear and read and have been told NGC is better and PCGS is just a fad that has been going on for 20 years....fad changes and it might change any time.

but I would be a fool not to make sure my collection was as liquid as possible in the event I need to sell...so if I have to submit my raw coins, I just HAVE to use PCGS. I would be a fool if I didn't!

I have a suggestion.....as we know PCGS may be harder on MS/PF70 coins....but fact shows that NGC is harder on Franklin halves.....now here is my suggestion and I want to see what you think about it.

Send in the higher grade MS/PF70 coins to PCGS.....but wouldn't it be smarter to send the Franklins to NGC?
The hobby KNOWS that NGC is harder on them and prices show that they bring better prices in most cases (This may not be online....but at shows it is offen the case).
So if you are really wanting to get the most....I suggest sending your coins to not 1...but maybe 3 grading Co.....PCGS for some coins....ANACS for some and NGC for some also.

I would like to know what holes are in that thinking?

Mar 1 2006 Silver Dollar 1885CC PCGS 64 $644
Mar 1 2006 Silver Dollar 1885CC GSA Hoard NGC 64 $560
Feb 27 2006 Silver Dollar 1885CC PCGS 64 $644
Feb 27 2006 Silver Dollar 1885CC PCGS 64 $644

Jan 16 2006 Small Cent 1940D PCGS 67 RD $134
Jan 15 2006 Small Cent 1940D NGC 67 RD $63
Jan 11 2006 Small Cent 1940D NGC 67 RD $53
Jan 8 2006 Small Cent 1940D NGC 67 RD $63

Feb 12 2006 Small Cent 1947D PCGS 67 RD $134
Oct 30 2005 Small Cent 1947D NGC 67 RD $78
Sep 5 2005 Small Cent 1947D NGC 67 RD $78
Sep 4 2005 Small Cent 1947D NGC 67 RD $84

Nov 23 2005 Small Cent 1975S Proof PCGS 69 DCAM $246
Nov 21 2005 Small Cent 1975S Proof PCGS 69 DCAM $258
Oct 30 2005 Small Cent 1975S Proof NGC 69 RD Ultra Cam $95
Aug 15 2005 Small Cent 1975S Proof PCGS 69 DCAM $146

Jan 29 2006 Small Cent 1941 PCGS 66 RD $50
Nov 2 2005 Small Cent 1941 NGC 66 RD $17
Oct 31 2005 Small Cent 1941 PCGS 66 RD $41
Sep 25 2005 Small Cent 1941 PCGS 66 RD $35

Jan 18 2006 Nickel 1927 PCGS 66 $672
Jun 20 2005 Nickel 1927 NGC 66 $550
May 9 2005 Nickel 1927 NGC 66 $578

Feb 26 2006 Nickel 2005S Proof Ocean View NGC 70 Ultra Cam $47
Feb 8 2006 Nickel 2005S Proof Ocean View NGC 70 Ultra Cam $78
Feb 5 2006 Nickel 2005S Proof Ocean View NGC 70 Ultra Cam $68
Feb 1 2006 Nickel 2005S Proof Ocean View NGC 70 Ultra Cam $63

Feb 27 2006 Nickel 2005S Proof Western Waters PCGS 70 DCAM $168
Feb 27 2006 Nickel 2005S Proof Western Waters PCGS 70 DCAM $168
Feb 27 2006 Nickel 2005S Proof Western Waters PCGS 70 DCAM $168
Feb 27 2006 Nickel 2005S Proof Western Waters PCGS 70 DCAM $168

Mar 1 2006 Quarter 1950D PCGS 66 $63
Feb 19 2006 Quarter 1950D PCGS 66 $78
Jan 29 2006 Quarter 1950D NGC 66 $32
Nov 2 2005 Quarter 1950D NGC 66 $53

Jan 23 2006 Statehood Quarter 2002S Proof Ohio Silver NGC 70 Ultra Cam $63
Sep 18 2005 Statehood Quarter 2002S Proof Louisiana Silver NGC 70 Ultra Cam $63
Sep 14 2005 Statehood Quarter 2002S Proof Louisiana Silver PCGS 70 DCAM $588
Apr 17 2005 Statehood Quarter 2002S Proof Louisiana Silver PCGS 70 DCAM $468

Dec 14 2005 Statehood Quarter 2000S Proof New Hampshire PCGS 69 DCAM $14
Oct 31 2005 Statehood Quarter 2000S Proof New Hampshire PCGS 69 DCAM $14
Oct 23 2005 Statehood Quarter 2000S Proof New Hampshire PCGS 70 DCAM $336
Sep 14 2005 Statehood Quarter 2000S Proof New Hampshire Clad NGC 70 Ultra Cam $73
Apr 20 2005 Statehood Quarter 2000S Proof New Hampshire PCGS 70 DCAM $330

So were all of these coins the same looking....were the bag marks in the same place....was the toning looking the same on each coin.....each coin is like a fingerprint....if the coin has neat toning it will always bring more $$$....if one has a mark on the face but the other one has 3 but non on the face it also just make "cents" that the one that doesn't have the mark on the face will bring a better price.
You can't just look at numbers and prices...you have to look at the COIN......

I looking at facts and figures.

You must be....because your not looking at the coins....only the holder (again...that was partly a joke )

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