Sleeper Coins

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Duke Kavanaugh, Feb 18, 2010.

  1. Breezo

    Breezo Coins are fun

    I suppose if you mean that they are worth nothing (.50 cents) you are right if you were asking a bank teller. The fact is they are low mintage coins. I think it's safe to say they will be worth more than today's PCGS price of a 2008 Kennedy satin finish MS 69 for 400 dollars but since they are lumped together 400 dollars is probably nothing to you Sultan. Here is an emoticon:bow:

    Are you implying PCGS is inflating their prices?
     
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  3. Breezo

    Breezo Coins are fun

  4. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    96W dime/No S dime - The Noost
    all the Roosevelts in higher (reasonably high) grades - Art
    31D Mercury - Just Carl
    1998 SMS silver Kennedy - TopcatCoin
    nothing - Pocket change
    1990 NO S Proof Lincoln Cent - bhp3rd
    1999 Proof Anthony Dollar - abe
    1997 P Jefferson Nickel in matte proof - JJK78
    2009 p dime in ms66 - davemac
    Modern commemorative, Specifically Dollars - BUBAGS
    Deep mirror proof like morgan - cerdsalicious
    '82-P quarter in near gem - cladking
    Anna Harrison First Spouse gold coin (proof or unc) - yakpoo
    Liberty Quarter Eagle from 1890 to 1895 - omegafactor
    Any bulliion nickel - sunflower
    1880-1888 Philly minted Seated quarters - PFCBEGA
    Non-U.S. coins from 1950 and back - dctjr80
    pre 82 commems w/ low mintages - ddoomm1
    1994 and 1997 nickels - bqcoins
    Barber dimes 01s and 13s nice ones - Victor
    1994 and 1997 nickels - Paddy54
    Poo Poo'd it all - Pocket Change
    Brown Wheat Cents - Illini420
    Conder Tokens - LeHigh96
    1927s SLQ - Duke
    1982 No "P" dime - ML94539
    Sacagawea 2004 P ,D & S through 2005 P , D & S - kangayou
    Half Cents - Lugia
    3 cent nickels - cerdsalicious
    early ('60s and '70s) clad coinage - yakpoo
    1914 Barber half - Breezo
    Swiss Schutzenfest (Shooting) Medals from 1900-1935 - hiho
    1927-p, 35-p, 26-s peace dollars - grizz
    1927-p peace dollar - Mr. Coin Lover
    EISENHOWER DOLLAR - Stewart
    Type B Washingtons, Type II Halves - jaceravone
    PCGS FS PR70 Spouse - Ladies First
    2008 Kennedy p/d - Breezo
    All Barber coins. - Treashunt
    1893 O Morgan - Paddy54

    It caught me off gaurd no one said MS70 Silver Eagles ;)
    All right...I guess I'm glad they didn't!!
     
  5. Bartlesvilleok

    Bartlesvilleok New Member

    I am still trying to find a 1885 around au50 - ms63 for my set. Also need an upgrade for my 1883 if anyone has one.
     
  6. Bartlesvilleok

    Bartlesvilleok New Member

    Has anyone thought about Pattern coins? There are many out there that cost around $1500 or less. I understand that there has to be the interest in them but with populations of a few dozen on many of them it would not take much interest for these to really take off. There are patterns out there that have a pop of 100 that are bringing $20k and others with pops of 2 dozen are going for $1k - $2k
     
  7. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    Smart idea.

    I've mentioned this before also. They stopped producing Kennedy halves for circulation around 2002 or 2003. And they've really started to cut back on them ever since. Total mintage each year now has been 3.4 million. As in 1.7 mil P's and 1.7 mil D's. I'm pretty sure that's all the 2009s that were made too.

    They're basically just made as a token gesture for collectors now.

    Now don't get me wrong. Almost the entire mintage will stay in high mint state condition forever. But, availability could become an issue as time goes on. How many are hoarded away in rolls like the guy I quoted has done? How many rolls do dealers have?

    One item of note is that the older Kennedy's with much higher mintages, seem to increase in price as you go back through the decades. $5-10 is common for a single MS piece.
    The point is, I don't believe these will ever go for moon money, but in 20 years, you can guarantee they will be harder to find and cost multiples more than the $2 it costs to get a hold of a P&D set today. This isn't even considering the inevitable cancellation of this long lived series.

    Aside from them, I'd also like to nominate modern commemoratives. Why?
    1.) - Most are beautiful. Some are stunning.

    2.) - They're the most artistic coins available from this modern time period from the mint.

    3.) - They are still made with precious metals

    4.) - Most are low mintage, some are very low mintage (especially when you split up the MS and PF numbers)

    5.)- They are not common designs that have been seen for decades

    6.) - Each year is unique

    7.) - Most are still VERY affordable to pretty much everyone. (Still sleeping.)

    8.) - If they do ever stop producing coins for circulation, I suspect the mint will still produce commemoratives for collectors. At which point, the entire collecting community's focus, will be funneled down to "what's left?" and the mint will "make a mint", selling them.
    I suspect many people may try to complete sets of them if that's all that was produced annually. Many new collectors will need the 'old' commems (90's- 2000 era). And they won't be able to get them from me.;)
    I'm not worried about trying to sell for profits. But, if something I want is easier and cheaper to acquire right now, than there's no point in waiting. Sometimes you need to find out what 'that' is.

    This has been a good thread.

    Ok, now you all can move along and think about dinner or something. I've still got several more commems to acquire yet.....sooo..... maybe they are lousy!? Who knows!? :D
     
  8. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    I agree that the recent Kennedy's will raise in value too. Just think it will be sleeping for awhile longer.

    Bartlesvilleok, patterns are really nice but at minimum of $1500 don't know if you can call that a sleeper. But I'll let it go with a Relative sleeper :D
     
  9. Dimefreak

    Dimefreak Senior Member

    1906S barber dime
    Hard to fine a nice one of those
     
  10. Car10

    Car10 Senior Member

    1955-D Washington quarter MS66
     
  11. Tell me about it. I have been looking for that exact coin at the right price and no luck. TC
     
  12. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    Well I just got a 1994 Matte Jefferson with a nice golden toning on the Rev. still in the coin and currency holder...
    Obv is still shinny white, sorry but the scan isn't that good.
    One Sleeper down...one to go :D


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  13. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    I have a 1993/1994 Jefferson coin and currency set, too, and when I looked at it last week the nickel in my set had a very attractive plum and rose coloration primarily on the reverse, too. This is rather common and I think the glue and/or paper that made the set contributes to the toning. Additionally, the reverse of the silver dollar was starting to get deep color along the edge of the rim. These are handsome sets.
     
  14. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    That's what my dollar is doing too. It's really a nice looking dollar too.
     
  15. Nice coin Duke. Try finding one of these without the toning on the reverse...very challenging. TC
     
  16. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    The Satins in the C&C sets have already moved (they're not sleeping). The satins in the 2005 to present mint sets haven't moved and are inexpensive enough to hoard a lot of them.
     
  17. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    you are right!

    How many do you want?


    ;)
     
  18. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    Are they in all mint sets since 05?
     
  19. Danr

    Danr Numismatist

    2005-2010 dimes non-satin certified ms67+ some certified ms66+
     
  20. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    I would see the 1960-D/D lincoln cent doubled die obverse ( and of 2 different obverse designs) with RPM-!, a wide displaced mint mark. Not sure how many pop up. Most seem to be from coin shops that readvertise them often on ebay. I hope they do well as I have a few of them ( disclaimer). But there aren't many DDO/RPM coins that I am aware.

    Jim
     
  21. Phil Ham

    Phil Ham Hamster

    I'll go with the 70's proof sets. If they go any lower in price, they'll be worth less than face value. Also, I would vote for the pre-82 cents which are already worth over $0.02 in melt value and you get them quite frequently for $0.01.
     
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