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			<title>Greater then 10% spread silver coins vs spot price</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 02:56:03 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[How is this possible??? 
 
 
 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>How is this possible???<br />
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<TD class="cms_table_prices_td"><a href="http://www.monex.com/prods/silver.html" target="_blank">Silver Bullion</a></TD>
<TD class="cms_table_numeric cms_table_prices_td">22.02</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_numeric cms_table_prices_td">22.40</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_numeric cms_table_prices_td"><img style="max-width: 500px; cursor: pointer;" onclick="window.open(this.src)" border="0" alt="Click here to enlarge" src="http://www.monex.com/images/icon_downarrow.gif" border="0" alt="" /> 0.43</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_chart cms_table_prices_td"><a href="http://www.monex.com/prods/sb_chart.html" target="_blank"><img style="max-width: 500px; cursor: pointer;" onclick="window.open(this.src)" border="0" alt="Click here to enlarge" src="http://www.monex.com/images/icon_round_graph.gif" border="0" alt="" /></a></TD>
<TD class="cms_table_numeric cms_table_prices_td">22.60</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_numeric cms_table_prices_td">22.81</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_numeric cms_table_prices_td">22.32</TD>
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<TD class="cms_table_prices_td"><a href="http://www.monex.com/prods/silver_eagle.html" target="_blank">Silver American Eagle</a></TD>
<TD class="cms_table_numeric cms_table_prices_td">25.72</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_numeric cms_table_prices_td">26.18</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_numeric cms_table_prices_td"><img style="max-width: 500px; cursor: pointer;" onclick="window.open(this.src)" border="0" alt="Click here to enlarge" src="http://www.monex.com/images/icon_downarrow.gif" border="0" alt="" /> 0.43</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_chart cms_table_prices_td"><a href="http://www.monex.com/prods/sae_chart.html" target="_blank"><img style="max-width: 500px; cursor: pointer;" onclick="window.open(this.src)" border="0" alt="Click here to enlarge" src="http://www.monex.com/images/icon_round_graph.gif" border="0" alt="" /></a></TD>
<TD class="cms_table_numeric cms_table_prices_td">26.38</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_numeric cms_table_prices_td">26.59</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_numeric cms_table_prices_td">26.10</TD>
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<tr valign="top" class="cms_table_prices_tr"><TD class="cms_table_chart cms_table_prices_td"><a href="http://www.monex.com/prods/silver_maple.html" target="_blank"><img style="max-width: 500px; cursor: pointer;" onclick="window.open(this.src)" border="0" alt="Click here to enlarge" src="http://www.monex.com/images/icon_round_info.gif" border="0" alt="" /></a></TD>
<TD class="cms_table_prices_td"><a href="http://www.monex.com/prods/silver_maple.html" target="_blank">Silver Maple Leaf</a></TD>
<TD class="cms_table_numeric cms_table_prices_td">24.79</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_numeric cms_table_prices_td">25.23</TD>
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How can a spread like this, greater then 10% persist? This is very interesting to me as an investor<br />
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Too bad when you buy silver futures contracts they dont deliver eagles or bars, furthermore, too bad we dont have our own mints to receive silver and sell coins, maybe the govt should start opening more mints?</div>

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			<title>What to offer on ASE?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 03:28:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Local pawn shop has about 4-5 ASE's in the littleton showpacks. 
 
They want $40.00 each for them. I want to buy one, if I can for a fair amount. 
 
What would be a decent offer?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Local pawn shop has about 4-5 ASE's in the littleton showpacks.<br />
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They want $40.00 each for them. I want to buy one, if I can for a fair amount.<br />
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What would be a decent offer?</div>

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			<title>Canadian $100 for $100 - Anyone Biting?</title>
			<link>http://www.cointalk.com/t227928/</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 20:10:32 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Anyone buying these? 
 
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			<title>Silver Bullet Silver Shield - Your Take</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 06:11:40 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm one of the folks who once believed in "Coins for the Cause" as promoted by Silver Bullet Silver Shield. Lately, I think I've been had. Their late deliveries, the Duane/Gray fighting, the new "Reign" medallion and its $29.99 premium for an existing double obverse not to mention the ridiculous...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I'm one of the folks who once believed in &quot;Coins for the Cause&quot; as promoted by Silver Bullet Silver Shield. Lately, I think I've been had. Their late deliveries, the Duane/Gray fighting, the new &quot;Reign&quot; medallion and its $29.99 premium for an existing double obverse not to mention the ridiculous marketing messages (have you read their site content?). <br />
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But now it seems the Slave Queen is being offered again. I thought my holdings of the Slave Queen were part of the only mintage to be struck. Sucks to be a sucker. <br />
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So, I'm down on these guys. Does anyone have a different perspective?</div>

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			<title>2013 Morgan dollars shipped in bad condition</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 20:11:41 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I bought a tube (20 coins) of 2013 Morgan Dollars and they were all scratched/dinged up when I received them. When I contacted the company about it they said it was normal for uncirculated silver bullion coins to have minor scratches and still be acceptable as BU grade uncirculated silver. But then...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I bought a tube (20 coins) of 2013 Morgan Dollars and they were all scratched/dinged up when I received them. When I contacted the company about it they said it was normal for uncirculated silver bullion coins to have minor scratches and still be acceptable as BU grade uncirculated silver. But then they agreed to exchange the order for coins in better condition. go figure... I haven't received them back yet but I'm just wondering if anyone else has dealt with this type of &quot;uncirculated coin&quot; trouble. I have ordered silver bullion in the past and they were all individually vacuum sealed coins and looked perfect. <br />
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			<title>Silver down...are you up???</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 19:37:30 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>*beat! I continue to buy as I believe silver will get to 50+ again*:hail:</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><b>beat! I continue to buy as I believe silver will get to 50+ again</b>:hail:</div>

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			<title>Help me understand the Intrinsic Value of Gold</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 16:11:44 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>*I have posted this elsewhere but interested in opinions here:* 
 
This is something I have pondered for several months now and I would like to  
have a civil and thoughtful discussion on. What I have for a long time tried to  
wrap my head around is why Gold is perceived to have intrinsic value...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><b>I have posted this elsewhere but interested in opinions here:</b><br />
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This is something I have pondered for several months now and I would like to <br />
have a civil and thoughtful discussion on. What I have for a long time tried to <br />
wrap my head around is why Gold is perceived to have intrinsic value and in <br />
essence why something dug up from the ground is inherently more valuable or <br />
different than something off a printing press. Even at $1,400/oz. in today's <br />
buying power Gold would make an illogical currency since people would literally <br />
be trading dust for the vast majority of purchases. Oil can be used for energy <br />
and power cars, corn can be consumed so I see their intrinsic values but is Gold <br />
irreplaceable in any critical function in the modern world. And if the U.S. <br />
economy collapses and we default on our debt who in the world would be left <br />
standing when the world's largest consumer stops buying and can't pay their <br />
credit card, certainly not the Chinese. So can someone help me understand the <br />
scenario where we have a world where Gold is hyper valuable? It seems to me if <br />
the U.S. were to collapse we would shoot past Gold to barter. This is a sincere <br />
question I really want to understand. Thanks.</div>

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			<title>Silver bar shipping a bit slow</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 16:06:12 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Last week I purchased a 10oz bar (silver), on the 9 which was a Thursday and it still hasn't been shipped.  
 
Got it from the Westminster mint, coin-rare.com. Most of the other bars and rounds seem sold out or out of stock.  
 
Does this mean silver inventory is getting low since spot price is low?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Last week I purchased a 10oz bar (silver), on the 9 which was a Thursday and it still hasn't been shipped. <br />
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Got it from the Westminster mint, coin-rare.com. Most of the other bars and rounds seem sold out or out of stock. <br />
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Does this mean silver inventory is getting low since spot price is low?</div>

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			<title>NYC Hard Assets Convention - report</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 14:02:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Howdy, 
 
Attended the hard asset investing conf in NYC over the past couple of days.  I'd been meaning to attend for a few years, but this is the first time I had the chance. 
 
Attendance and sponsors down by 2/3 over previous years.  This is actually a bullish sign.  Be that as it may, there was...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Howdy,<br />
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Attended the hard asset investing conf in NYC over the past couple of days.  I'd been meaning to attend for a few years, but this is the first time I had the chance.<br />
<br />
Attendance and sponsors down by 2/3 over previous years.  This is actually a bullish sign.  Be that as it may, there was mixed sentiment.  Ian McAvity (one of the founders of CEF and a chartist) is still way bullish but wants to see a bounce back.  Support at 1320 than 950.  Resistance is around 1520 and 1600.  He feels it was a deliberate 500 ton GLD smackdown.  Regardless, it did shake out the weak hands and fast money.  VanEeden was the only bear last year and so he was key.  He sees the real value of gold around 950 or so but doesn't think it will go down that far.  He was very pleased by the low turnout from a bullish perspective.  With regard to the unfunded liabilities he said it was guaranteed the gov't is going to be raising our taxes in any and every way they can. Most will be on the margin and nickel and dime stuff, but bank on it.  Also, the gov'ts (fed, state, local) will all be breaking their promises (unfunded liabilities) because they simply cannot pay.  Lastly, they'll continue to monetize everything they can.  The summary is that we've been spending more than we've been earning, it can't continue, and the US is in for a drastic decrease in our overall standard of living. <br />
<br />
Most of them are still touting the owning of physical bullion rather than any form of paper.  They hate the big miners but love the juniors BUT also admit that over the next year or so, we'll see the demise of 500-600 juniors as they run out of cash.  <br />
<br />
It was informative and interesting.<br />
<br />
peace,<br />
<br />
rono</div>

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			<title>best finds in junk silver bin</title>
			<link>http://www.cointalk.com/t227850/</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 12:09:32 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>On Monday I was buying some 90%, saw a 1949 Franklin Half that looked at least AU, so I bought it, along with about $21 face.  When I got home I noticed 2 things:  It is a 49-S(!), and though it is not a great strike (not  FBL), it is uncirculated, (probably about MS63  good luster and the...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>On Monday I was buying some 90%, saw a 1949 Franklin Half that looked at least AU, so I bought it, along with about $21 face.  When I got home I noticed 2 things:  It is a 49-S(!), and though it is not a great strike (not  FBL), it is uncirculated, (probably about MS63  good luster and the lettering on the bell is quite sharp)   The 2011 red book says $100.  I would be glad to get about $80 for it from a LCS.Other past finds:  Uncirculated 1939-S, 1947-D, and 1949-D quarters, 1917-S type 1 half in G. What are your best finds?</div>

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			<title>Creative way to sell a silver bar on ebay</title>
			<link>http://www.cointalk.com/t227848/</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 04:54:10 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>How Low Will Silver Go?</title>
			<link>http://www.cointalk.com/t227813/</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 17:13:09 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>So far the permabulls have been wrong on the price of silver, and some are still saying it will rocket up any day now.  Personally, I think silver is a good hedge and store of value, given the inflationary monetary policy.  Also, assuming deflation wins against central bank easing, I still think...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>So far the permabulls have been wrong on the price of silver, and some are still saying it will rocket up any day now.  Personally, I think silver is a good hedge and store of value, given the inflationary monetary policy.  Also, assuming deflation wins against central bank easing, I still think silver is a good hedge.  <br />
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So how low will silver go?  The way I see it, the Wall Street boys are trying to shake out the flaky investors.  I also think this is a correction in a long-term trend upwards.</div>

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			<title>Should I Open A SAE Sealed Mint Tube?</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 00:26:25 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I recently bought a sealed tube of 20 2013 Silver Eagles from the online dealer JM Bullion.  If I am mainly bought it as a silver investment/hedge should I open it?  With all the fakes going around the only way to verify that these coins are authentic would be to open the tube and test the coins,...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I recently bought a sealed tube of 20 2013 Silver Eagles from the online dealer JM Bullion.  If I am mainly bought it as a silver investment/hedge should I open it?  With all the fakes going around the only way to verify that these coins are authentic would be to open the tube and test the coins, but since it was bought from a reputable online dealer, do you think I have to do that?  What do you guys do with your sealed tubes when you get them?</div>

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			<title>Quick Poll</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 00:09:53 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm buying bullion tonight and can't make up my mind. Should I get 
  
.05 oz of gold and 2 oz of silver  
 
or 
 
5 oz of silver?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I'm buying bullion tonight and can't make up my mind. Should I get<br />
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.05 oz of gold and 2 oz of silver <br />
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5 oz of silver?</div>

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			<description><![CDATA[I've been looking at the collector edition hockey pucks and trying to make sense of their value versus their rarity.  Obviously, the selling price of the Hawaian puck is out of whack but it isn't the only oddity in this series.  The 2010 pucks seem reasonably valued, the 2011 pucks seem under...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I've been looking at the collector edition hockey pucks and trying to make sense of their value versus their rarity.  Obviously, the selling price of the Hawaian puck is out of whack but it isn't the only oddity in this series.  The 2010 pucks seem reasonably valued, the 2011 pucks seem under valued, and the 2012 pucks are all over the place.  Also, it doesn't appear that Puerto Rico is getting much respect by us (US numismatists).  Below is a quick summary of the pucks, their mintage, and current value based on everyone's favorite price guide (ebay).  Your thoughts are encouraged.<br />
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Hot Springs (NP1)             $280              27,000<br />
Yellowstone (NP2)             $280              27,000<br />
Yosemite (NP3)                 $250              27,000<br />
Grand Canyon (NP4)          $260              26,019<br />
Mount Hood (NP5)             $245              26,928<br />
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Gettysburg (NP6)              $250               24,625<br />
Glacier (NP7)                    $220               20,856<br />
Olympic (NP8)                   $220              18,398<br />
Vicksburg (NP9)                $220               18,594<br />
Chickasaw (NP10)             $220               16,827<br />
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El Yungue (NQ0)               $260               17,314<br />
Chaco Culture (NQ1)         $220                17,146<br />
Acadia (NQ2)                    $320               14,978<br />
Hawaii (NQ3)                    $520               14,863<br />
Denali (NQ4)                     $260               15,225</div>

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